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Refuting a Book of Lies – Forbidden Family by Joan Mary Wheeler May 8, 2016

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new posts: 

Welcome New Visitors (new post – click here) September 30, 2017

Doris Michol Sippel fka Doris Michol Sippel engages in an unprovoked ATTACK on me and my family on the facebook page ADOPTION SUCKS. (what a nice grown-up name there). July 30, 2017

May 7, 2017 — Doris Michol Sippel fka Joan Mary Wheeler was recently in a depressed state for some time (as per own admission) and WHAM! came out of it into a full-blown manic episode and foaming at the mouth over her anti-adoption and her hatred of her birth sisters.

A call to Doris Michol Sippel fka Joan Mary Wheeler to step up to the plate and use her activism skills for something worthwhile. February 12, 2017

Doris Michol Sippel fka Joan Mary Wheeler just CAN’T keep her mouth shut about me. She gets shot down on Huffington Post, and brings me into it – even tho I was OUT of it (Jan, 2017).  posted on February 11, 2017

Joan Mary Wheeler, aka Doris Michol Sippel gets two of her clueless friends to put new reviews of her book on amazon – January 21, 2017

Some adoptees just can’t GET IT that others are NOT interested in their politics and don’t know when to shut the f… up! January 19, 2017  

gods, nutty people are everywhere. MMD, former friend of Joan Wheeler/Doris Sippel has some growing up to do January 15, 2017

 Joan Mary Wheeler aka Doris Michol Sippel has her very first book signing and blows it by screaming at another author there, then calls for other adoptees to harass the woman AND publishes the woman’s phone number on social media. January 3, 2017

Con Artist Joan Mary Wheeler, now known as Doris Michol Sippel strikes again by peddling to an unsuspecting public a book with a new title, a new author-name, BUT THE SAME CONTENTS INSIDE. September 24, 2016

Joan Mary Wheeler and Brian T. Maloney – get out of my life before I have the authorities MAKE YOU LEAVE. August 2, 2016

Joan Mary Wheeler’s puppet for her dirty work Chimp Brian T. Maloney of Williamsville is stalking me again. July 31, 2016 (with screenshot of him doing it)

Update: Monday, May 16, 2016 about the post about the anal-retentive and argumentative person who got his panties in a bunch when Gert and I rebutted his review on amazon dot com of Joan’s libelous book (see link further below) — on amazon this morning, I see that Mark had hastily reviewed 7 books. lol. – Reviewing a bunch of stuff a week after you’ve said you’ve reviewed things doesn’t show intelligence Mark, it shows someone who was caught in the act and now desperately trying to cover up his lies. — yes readers, because I had pointed out in this blog that Mark LIED in his answer to me and Gert (about never having been “attacked’ for his reviews) – I had checked his reviews – he had only reviewed ONE – Joan’s book, then hastily added a second review of another book a couple of hours later – and then yesterday, he went and added 7 more reviews of products. This really shows that critic’s emotional intelligence is at “play” again. Grow up Mark – grown men don’t play at such things. And don’t forget Mark – dates and times of reviews show up on amazon. Your review of the book on John Lennon showed you wrote that review AFTER you said you had other reviews – but you didn’t – at the time you whined about “being attacked about your reviewS” – you only had one review up. I’m not stupid Mark. Not at all.

update – Sunday, May 15, 7pm – interesting – this old post was looked at in the last couple of hours. Speaking of reviews on amazon dot com by personal friends of Joan Wheeler: 

My letter (Jan 18, 2011) to Nicole S. Urdang, therapist, who thought the trash book Forbidden Family by Joan Wheeler was a good book, but then pulled her review of it off amazon dot com. May 15, 2011

note – May 15, 2016 – Joan Wheeler has moved her blog at least 3 times since my writing this letter and this blog post. Her newest version of her blog does not have her blog post, “angry adoptee rant” – archives of December 2009: https://forbiddenfamily.com/2009/12/page/2/ — because Joan Wheeler is a sneak, a liar, and a backtracker. When her lies are uncovered, she hastily removes traces of her lies. With no apologies or explanations.

note: older posts contain links to Joan’s old blog location. Since 2008, she has had 4 blog locations and every so often changes websites of her blogs and keeps moving things from one blogsite to another. So some links in older blog posts here will not work. She also likes to copy and paste contents from a blog post and hide them in other posts. She’s sneaky like that. Me, I don’t play games – what you see is what you get.

NOTE FROM GERT… 

here are links to two on my blog wherein we have all that Joan wrote

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2012/04/02/the-beginnings-of-joan-wheelers-internet-campaign-against-her-birth-siblings/

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/part-two-of-joan-wheelers-internet-campaign-against-the-birth-siblings-wherein-she-publically-tells-our-personal-names-and-information/

Sunday, May 15, 2016, new post – see link just below. And updated the post about the idiot reviewer on amazon (Mark K.) – see link below.

The title of this blog is quite clear – refuting the lies told about me and other members of my family in her book Forbidden Family. Because some fools are taken in by lies told by another fool.

“Who’s the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows?” – Obi Wan Kenobi

recent posts:

Why hasn’t Joan Mary Wheeler announced her legal name change? May 15, 2016

related post: Joan Wheeler talks the talk, but can’t (fully) walk the walk. November 23, 2014

Legal Notice by Ruth B. Pace (nee Sippel) concerning Joan Mary Wheeler’s legal name change to Doris Michol Sippel May 12, 2016

Joan Mary Wheeler has legally changed her name to Doris Michol Sippel May 12, 2016

A truly anal and argumentative person reviews Joan Wheeler’s trash book on amazon and can’t stand to have opposition viewpoints May 8, 2016

A timeline of abuses that Joan Mary Wheeler has done to me. May 8, 2016

2016: a new year and I’M BACK! to blog about Joan Mary Wheeler’s lies in her Forbidden Family trashbook. January 3, 2016

here are the court documents that prove that Joan Wheeler is a liar January 17, 2013

Joan Mary Wheeler blames ‘adoption’ for her crappy life. Since we started our blogs in 2009, to refute her lies aobut us and our family in her ‘autobiography’ (published in 2009) and answering her comments on adoption forums and other internet sites, we have learned that there are many self-labeled “angry adoptees.” These are usually adoptees who have suffered mental and physical abuse, sometimes sexual abuse from the family that adopted them. They feel as tho if they lobby and whine and fight and kick and scratch against the institution and the idea of adoption and fight to actually abolish adoption altogether – it will make their crappy childhood better. I know for a fact that Joan had been mentally abused by her psycho adoptive mom, I witnessed it. I never saw witnessed physical abuse (Joan was 18 when we were reunited), but I believe she was. AND I truly believe, tho Joan has never said so – that she was sexually abused. – The signs are all there of an adult survivor of childhood sexual abuse.

ALSO – Joan hates her birthsiblings – us – because we were not adopted out, but she was. So she is out to punish us for that, and the whole world for her adoption.

She has tried in the past many times to destroy my life, my career, my marriage – for more than 25 years I’ve been her main target of harassments. This blog tells the tale of those many harassments – with documents to prove what I say – actual police and court documents pertaining to the times I’ve hauled her in front of weak judges who dismiss the charges – even though proof is presented of her harassments. This blog also contains scans of numerous letters that Joan Wheeler has mailed to me – in her own handwriting. And letters she wrote to my husband via his mother’s house in efforts to break us up.

She admits to calling my job multiple times in 1994-95. She did it again in 2012, claiming that I was committing computer fraud on my job. My employer investigated me, and exonerated me. I had a meeting in Human Resources. I was told that I was found innocent, because they can track every keystroke I do.  Joan also bragged about that deed on the internet! (Huffington Post). I submitted a screen shot of her bragging and the judge dismissed the charges.

So this blog not only refutes the lies told about me in her book, but her lies about me on the internet, and all the harassments that I have endured from this sick woman the past 25-plus years. Joan whines on the internet that I, and my other sisters ‘bother’ her – yet she never shows or gives proof of such. Only fools and ignorant idiots believe a liar when no proof is given of their claims, yet refuse to believe a court document that show that their ‘hero’ is in fact a liar. 

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Revisiting JoanMWheeler/DorisMSippel’s CALL TO ARMS against her birth siblings! November 16, 2017

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In 2016 Joan M Wheeler legally changed her name back to her birth name of Doris M Sippel. We siblings call her Joan/Doris. Her lies will always follow her!

In 2009, Joan/Doris wrote and published a hate manifesto, against both the adopted and birth families, under the name of a ‘memoir’, without gaining permission from anyone in the family. She published it with OUR family’s name on the front cover and a family picture on the back. Once the birth sisters found out, about the book, we began discussions with the publisher of that first book (she self-published two additional editions). The publisher, Trafford Publications, agreed that Joan/Doris had violated their contract and they pulled the book from being further published. That action was due to the family presenting documented evidence to prove the falsehoods and misrepresentations in that first book.

There is NO need to take her to court…

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Oh the shame of adoption! Yep that’s the lament of ‘certain’ adoptees! Most notably Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel! November 13, 2017

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NEW POST about how Joan/Doris continues to LAMENT her shame

duped by adoption & an woman's Struggle for Identity, a book study

She will not let it go! She not just a broken record, she’s a warped broken record! I’ve noted in recent months of 2017 that she has found another NEW blogger/audience where she can regurgitating the same crap, ‘her’ story, over and over again…most of which is untrue! One has to wonder just how much this new ‘audience’ knows about Joan/Doris! Only time will tell.

So I found Joan/Doris, using her ‘legitmatebastard’ name, on a comment on this…

https://velvetbocephus.wordpress.com/2017/10/15/shame-on-open-adoption-dammit/

I’m not interested in and am not showing the full blog post, just Joan/Doris’s comment.

My commentary, in between Joan/Doris’s words will be in bold.

legitimatebastard   October 15, 2017 at 1:38 pm

I can relate. My father, in his grief after his wife, my mother, died, was talked into giving me up for adoption. At my mother’s funeral, the parish priest said to my father, “The baby needs two parents.”…

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another example of hate by Joan/Doris…disgusting! #flipthescript November 5, 2017

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https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/how-not-to-win-over-adoptees-and-gain-converts-to-abolish-adoption-joanmwheelerdorismsippel-at-her-best-flipthescript/

NEW IMPORTANT POST HERE October 14, 2017

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check this OUT…

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2017/10/14/why-do-these-ladies-mirah-riben-and-doris-m-sippeljoan-m-wheeler-have-to-be-so-malicious-to-those-that-choose-to-adopt/

Welcome new visitors! September 30, 2017

Posted by Ruth in Announcements and updates, Dreams, Inconsistent Angel Things, Uncategorized.
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Good Morning

As we bid goodbye to September, I welcome all the new (and old) visitors to this blog.

Wow – yesterday (Sept. 29, 2017) this blog had 49 visitors with 51 views of posts, and today (Sept. 30, 2017) as of 9:00am Eastern USA time, this blog had 34 visitors with 38 views of posts. I don’t know why the spike in visitors – I suspect from my recent comment on my sister Gert’s blog post — or perhaps Joan Mary Wheeler, now known as Doris Michol Sippel, in an internet post that I am unaware of (so far) has been telling her adoptee cronies to come and spam me again.

Well, whatever prompted you all to come – welcome, Welcome. Feel free to look around and read and read and read. That’s what a blog is for — for people to read. 

lol – one time Joan/Doris was bitching and complaining because she realized that I was reading her blog. Well, what the f? If someone puts out a blog on the public internet, it is reasonable to assume that people are going to READ IT. (duh!)

And she reads this blog as well, even though she’ll tell you she doesn’t. Because I’ve noticed several times in the past, I’ll write a post, and a few days later, Joan/Doris will write something on her blog, or elsewhere, and a tell-tale phrase will show up – a phrase she lifted from my blog. ha ha ha. 

I haven’t been as active on this blog as before – even though I’ll have been retired 23 months now — I find that I still don’t have enough time in the day! I’ve so many things going on – archiving my old vinyl record albums and cassette tapes. Archiving photos and papers (scanning them into the computer). Trying to get my house clean and in order — I was working 12 hour shifts for a few years before I retired. When you work 2 or 3 12-hour shifts in a row, there’s not much time to ANYTHING. Then on your days (in my case, nights) off, you’re too damn tired to do anything. 

A couple of months ago, the gas company found a small leak in the pipe near the curb in front of my house. They had to dig that up and replace it – part of my garden got ripped up – and I’ll have to re-do it next year. But I’ve got all new pipes and a new meter! So that’s a bonus. It’s always good to get new stuff for the house. In recent years, I’ve gotten new water pipes, telephone wires, electric wires (and new meter and circuit breaker box) – even a new telephone pole out front with new electric and telephone wires for the whole street! yay! 

Personally, I’m losing weight, and getting into shape. I’ve begun a long time dream of mine – learn Latin. Once I master that, I’ll move on to French, Greek and Tolkien Elvish.

I’m also writing a Star Trek fan-fic story (fan-fiction). Who knows? It might be get published as a Star Trek novel. Even if it doesn’t, it will be good enough for me to read. ha ha.

I’ve also been stepping up into my latest hobby – ghost hunting. Yes, I’m now a paranormal investigator. (7 years now). I’ve also been getting back into my Tarot Card lessons.

So many things that I’ve wanted to do for years, but couldn’t because of my job. Now that that stage of my life is over – it’s time for ME. 

I’ve spent 43 years taking care of the sick and dying as a nurse aide, then PCA (Patient Care Assistant) in a major hospital. It was very rewarding for my soul. Even though most times, I felt (and knew) that I was not appreciated, there were times that I was.

In going through my old papers, I found a few ‘thank you’ cards and notes I’ve gotten through the years – from patients, patient’s family members, co-workers, and managers at work. 

Through the years, I’ve also been verbally appreciated, again from the above list, and even from some physicians and nurse practitioners. One nurse practitioner, Karen, started teaching me to read EKG patterns. As a PCA, one of my duties was to perform EKG tests on patients. – just hooking them up to the machine and pushing the GO button. Karen wanted me to learn the patterns that I was getting down. Because she said “Ruth, you have the brains to find abnormalities that I need to know about it. The others (other PCAs) don’t.” oh dear! lol. 

Well, there were bad times at my job as well. Like when a patient dies. Especially when that patient has had a chronic condition and you see them year after year, and they become ‘friends.’ That’s not to say we health care workers don’t feel for all our patients, we do, (why else would we be in that job), but sure, when you get to know a person, their passing is going to affect you. 

So, to reiterate, I found my job rewarding, but, I don’t miss it. It was very hard work – on my feet most of the time. Encountering rude, disrespecting, and sometimes abusive (verbally and physically) patients, heavy lifting, being overworked and shortstaffed, under pressure — nursing is not a job for the faint-hearted or the weak (in body and mind). 

And now it’s time for ME.  

I’ll do some blog posts when I have the time — and right now – I’ve got to get moving. I’ve got two burner plates soaking in the kitchen sink! My husband of 30 years treats me like a queen – he does all the cooking. But oh my gosh! He’s such a slob! Spills things and is obvlious to it. So the stuff gets cooked on to the burners and stuff. And who gets the glamorous job of cleaning it up? – yeah, me.

Well, now you know what occupies me. If you want to know more, come visit my facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/RuthSippelPace 

You’re all more than welcome to come and visit. And read all that you want on this blog.

And everyone – have a happy day. And pray or donate, call your senator/congressman to help the people in Puerto Rico. I can’t believe what is happening. so sad. so sad.

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1. gertmcqueenSeptember 30, 2017

Excellent post!

Generally, our blogs receive a fair amount of viewings…and just recently it has been pointed out, our reputations are ‘known’…whether that is favorable or not really doesn’t matter to Ruth and I.

We don’t write to be ‘known’, we write to right the lies spoken and written against us and our family.

We are ‘known’ because we speak out against Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

Once in a while we ‘hit a nerve’ and that accounts for the increase in views…great! The more people that get to see our blogs the better, for that means that we are doing our jobs…exposing the rotten things that Joan/Doris has done to families, both the birth and adoptive! She has crossed many a line! She has caused a lot of pain to those that LOVED her! Her worst mistake was to put her lies out in PRINT! For that she will have us around her neck for EVER!

I rather enjoy the opportunities that writing about Joan/Doris has given me, as I age. The use of critical thinking, writing, research, technical skills and more, certainly help keep my mind active and functional. I really don’t spend a lot of time on her or writing about her; a little here, a little there and I have a blog post! Winters where I live are long; this activity helps pass those long nights.

Not that I need something to do! Heavens NO! As Ruth has stated, she’s busy…so am I!

I’ve been retired now for over 10 years! My life is my own and I get paid to have that life! Joan/Doris is but a fraction of my life…so don’t think that I’m obsessed with her, as she is with her ‘sisters’. NO NO NO We have a life, she doesn’t!

I have a very active life; walk, bike, gym, yoga, tai-chi. I maintain two homes; my own apartment in a small village and I share, with my partner of 19 years, his country home! We have over 4 acres with a medium size veggie garden, multiple flower gardens, several mini-forests of pine, birch, maple, oaks. We built a labyrinth. We read under the shade trees; both our libraries are extensive. I belong to a book club. We both cook! We have a large circle of friends!

Life is very good, I’m lucky and fortunate! I don’t whine and cry over life’s hardships…I HAVE A LIFE and I LIVE MY LIFE.

But…I shall ALWAYS find some time to work on exposing the dirty deeds and words of Joan/Doris…because she did the worst thing…she DISHONORED and EXPOSED and EXPLOITS our parents, ourselves and every one of our families. She is a disgrace!

So by all means keep coming back and visit us, here’s links to check out.
https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/ this blog is titled Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/ this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

Also see this Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoptionStruggleforIdentity1/

In addition…see the ‘discussion’ forums, on Amazon, for two of the books. The first book has one review and several comments related.

Forbidden Family: My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption forum
https://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Adoptee-Duped-Adoption/forum/Fx16ZHWP5PQHHCK/-/1/ref=cm_cd_fp_rvt?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00X520CGW

Joan Mary Wheeler forum
https://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/forum.html/ref=cm_cd_rvt?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx3T0YAD0KXNPP5

review of first book and 4 comments
https://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Joan-M-Wheeler/dp/1412061547

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Anti-adoption people, like Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel, are SO blinded by their views that they CAN NOT see when someone shows them an alternative! September 27, 2017

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Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

But we must remember that Joan/Doris is not the only one! She has told many anti-adoption people about me! As is told to me below… ‘Oh, I see your name now. Your reputation precedes you.’ …Nice to know that I’m KNOWN!

One of the common threads that anti-adoption people use is that the ‘system’ and/or the ‘church’ interferes and ‘takes away the baby’ of young woman! But there is another side of that story.

NOT every girl/woman that has gotten pregnant GIVES UP OR GAVE UP their child! Likewise, not everyone was/is taken advantage of by the ‘system’ or the ‘church’. But…anti-adoption people just can’t abide the fact that some had/have actually defied the system and did KEEP and RAISE their baby! Oh no! We can’t allow that to be known; that there are some who CAN AND DO take control of their lives and well…KEEP THEIR BABIES.

Now I…

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Inviting Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel to a point-counter-point discussion on Facebook. September 9, 2017

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an invite

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Here’s your chance Joan/Doris! Come, discuss your issues with those of us that you hate so much.

Here’s my invite to you

For no particular reason, just a while ago, I checked Joan/Doris’s web page and found an interesting item! A long rant about and to a Jennifer Marsh who left a PM on Joan/Doris’s FB account related to Jeremy and Jenny adopting! Boy! nothing sets Joan/Doris off more than someone ANYONE telling her that they have a different opinion from her!

I INVITE Jennifer Marsh to PM me here on this FACEBOOK PAGE that is dedicated to the words and works of Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel. If anyone, out there, knows Jennifer, please relay this message to her. I also WELCOME Jennifer to post PUBLICALLY wants she wishes to tell Joan/Doris.

I ALSO INVITE Joan/Doris to a point-counter-point on THIS FACEBOOK PAGE. This page is FOR THE DISSECTION…

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JoanMWheeler/DorisMSippel says… ‘Adoptees are the world’s experimental rats.’ August 26, 2017

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another BS junk science position by a master LIAR

Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

I saw a blog post called, Stalking Irish Madness, Through Adoption’s Lens, written July 1, 2009

http://www.73adoptee.com/2009/07/stalking-irish-madness-through-adoptions-lens/

Joan/Doris says, in her comment, ‘Late to the game of responding to this post’.

She sure was, more like 4 months late, December 2009! The reason she was late, in responding, is because she was very busy adding MORE lies to her manuscript before publication. That would be the FIRST edition of Forbidden Family, which was published November 2009. It was then pulled by the publisher in May 2011 for her breach of contract; she lied to them about the ‘truth’ of the manuscript. Since then of course she has self-published it twice more! Certainly NOT a best seller! But getting back to the subject of THIS post…

First we shall see Joan/Doris’s comment, which contains her own misspellings, then a few thoughts from me, then a definition/discussion of epigenome

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‘I understand people’s need for privacy.’ Says Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel. August 6, 2017

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Unfortunately that is FALSE! She is a liar, incapable of telling the truth about her families. Joan hasn’t a clue about anyone’s privacy, for she doesn’t care about others. It’s all about HER and HER privacy, while she fabricates lives about family members, for others, to promote her political agenda against adoption.

On a Facebook group page, Adoption Sucks, on July 10, 2017, someone asked a question; Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness?

The Facebook page’s link is…  https://www.facebook.com/groups/10484382277/

Now this particular Facebook page is a PUBLIC PAGE. Anyone who writes anything, on any public social media site or on a blog or a comment, anywhere, CANNOT expect privacy. Their postings, comments, likes etc. are OUT THERE for PUBLIC viewings. And of course the same goes for any printed book or e-book and as such is ALWAYS subject to PUBLIC scrutiny and discourse…

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Perhaps more adoption agencies should do this… August 3, 2017

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if they did, perhaps less of the hatred that some adoptees have that makes them think it is OK to harass others would be greatly reduced…we can only hope

http://abrazo.org/adoption-trolls-other-beastly-beings/

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Doris Michol Sippel fka Joan Mary Wheeler engages in an unprovoked ATTACK on me and my family on the facebook page ADOPTION SUCKS. (what a nice grown-up name there). July 30, 2017

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I have been trying to write this blog post for a couple of weeks. I have been very busy with my life. But I was made aware, by a friend via private facebook message that Joan Mary Wheeler, now going by her new name of Doris Michol Sippel had left a comment to a thread on the “Adoption sucks” facepook page.   https://www.facebook.com/groups/10484382277/

also please see Gert’s follow up post here…

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2017/08/06/i-understand-peoples-need-for-privacy-says-joan-m-wheelerdoris-m-sippel/

The thread, started by Leslie Dann on July 10 at 3:26pm asked the question “Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness?”  — To which Joan/Doris answered with this comment:

“I have C-PTSD, depression, anxiety. My adoptive mother had several diagnosed mental illnesses for which I was treated in order to learn how to cope with her behavior. My adoptive father was her enabler. The rest of my adoptive father’s family (not all, thank goodness) all piled on the band wagon to emotionally abuse me after my reunion, so gang mentality increased my fear, anxiety, PTSD from their attacks. My natural blood family have undiagnosed mental illness, their attacks upon me are also responsible for my C-PTSD. “ 

Here is Leslie’s full comment: Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness? I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at age 19 after I went manic and saw hallucinations. I have been taking my medication for years, faithfully, but this past year I have been hospitalized three times for depression. I don’t know why except there are external factors, such as no support system and a job I’m just doing to get my pension. I told bfather about how I hadn’t been doing so well lately and he hasn’t answered my email. I think if you admit to being unhappy (even if you have a mental illness) they just don’t want to hear it. It upsets their adoption apple cart. Anyone else I would have told that to would have said that they were there to talk or reach out to. Bfather: silence. More disappointment. 

Leslie does not say anything to lead anyone to attack anyone. She (or he, as Leslie can be male or female), does say they had contacted their birthfather, but he hadn’t answered the email. Leslie says they were disappointed in their birthfather’s silence. However, Joan simply HAD to use the opportunity to ATTACK her birthfamily. She didn’t say she had been disappointed in her birthfamily, no, she ATTACKED us. AND her adoptive family. “The rest of my adoptive father’s family (not all, thank goodness) all piled on the band wagon to emotionally abuse me after my reunion, so gang mentality increased my fear, anxiety, PTSD from their attacks” – then she goes on to LIE about her birthfamily saying “My natural blood family have undiagnosed mental illness, their attacks upon me are also responsible for my C-PTSD.”

So, her entire birth family is mentally ill and are the cause for HER PTSD? –BULLSHIT.

So I left a post defending myself. And of course the adoptees went screwy because I stood up for myself and MY RIGHTS NOT TO BE LIED ABOUT. And of course, the adoptees can’t concieve that perhaps, one of their own is a lying asshole. of course not. I am sick of the bullshit “superiority” put forth by these assholes.  

The issue of my being an member of the group was brought up and the adoptees immediately took it that I follow Joan around the internet. Why yes, I do – that has been brought up on this blog many times – I FOLLOW JOAN/DORIS ON THE INTERNET TO SEE WHAT LIES SHE SAYS ABOUT ME AND MY FAMILY. And by the way, since Joan is blocked from me on facebook, I can’t see what she says. I was sent her message by a friend. I did not ask him to send it to me. It doesn’t matter HOW I saw her comment. It doesn’t matter WHERE I saw her comment. It doesn’t matter WHO alerted me to it. What matters is she took this thread as an opportunity to lob an UNPROVOKED ATTACK against me.  

Speaking of people alerting me to Joan/Doris’ activities on the internet, every few months I get UNSOLICITED private message via facebook of such. I also get friend requests from adoptees, yes, adoptees, who are sick of Joan/Doris and her bullshit. Here is the screenshot of one of them. AND if you look at the right hand side, I blocked out names and profile pics of people, but another person, did send me an observation about “JW”

 

 

Getting back to the “adoption sucks thread” Joan/Doris comes back on the thread and tries to justify HER lies about me AND states another lie about me — THAT I AM IN DENIAL ABOUT MY UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL ILLNESS: 

Doris Michol Sippel In case you all are wondering where I’ve been…I’ve been quietly living my life today. Breakfast, laundry, church, lunch with a friend, grocery shopping, answered long distance phone call, prepared for work tomorrow, went to an outdoor concert, came back to this. Yes, I long ago blocked Ruthie and Gert so I cannot see their comments. All I see are the words of others talking to Ruth. Imagine being found at age 18 in 1974 by these weird women! I was in my senior year of high school, got enmeshed in their problems, got swept up in everyone’s anger at me, so I lashed back, until I sought therapy. I still cannot understand why we all have made it clear many decades ago that we want nothing to do with each other – and they still hunt me down. I do nothing to them.They attack other adoptees. …Ruth is 63 or 64, Gert is 70. I am 61. You see the content of my writing. Who has mental illness? Who admits to struggling? Me. As Daryl Bergmann said, NOT ME. Who is in denial? July 17 at 12:05am

Really now, Joan/Doris is proud of herself to admitting to being mentally ill, and calls on me to do the same. — oh, but didn’t she say in her first comment that I have an UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL ILLNESS? um, how can I admit to something that is undiagnosed????????????? ahhhh, the stupid, it burns, it burns!!!!?? this is just like Trump saying there was no Russian involvement, but Obama was in the wrong for not going after the Russians for their non-involvement. Joan/Doris shows us her own mental illness (just like Trump) with her non-sensical statement. 

Then Joan asks the adoptees if one of them can copy and paste what I wrote and send it to her. Um, but – the adoptees were bitching when I was sent a copy of paste of what Joan wrote about me. But it’s perfectly allright for them to copy and paste what I wrote. Double standard here as usual. One of the adoptees ask a question about Joan’s request:

Laurel Jenkins-Crowe I hope it’s OK for me to put in that I for one would like to know what would be done with that document. Could it be anonymized?

Doris Michol Sippel Laurel Jenkins-Crowe Not at all. I understand people’s need for privacy. 

SHE UNDERSTANDS PEOPLE’S NEED FOR PRIVACY???? REALLY? WHERE THE FUCK IS MY PRIVACY JOAN/DORIS?

The administrator of the group, Daryl Bergman, a buddy of Joan/Doris points out that Joan/Doris had not named me in her “diagnosing me and my family with a undiagnosed mental illness” : — however that point is moot. Joan/Doris has named me all over her website, has named my parents in her libelous book, has photographs of my parents in her book and on her website. I have no privacy.

Here is the full text of all comments:

Leslie Dann — Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness? I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at age 19 after I went manic and saw hallucinations. I have been taking my medication for years, faithfully, but this past year I have been hospitalized three times for depression. I don’t know why except there are external factors, such as no support system and a job I’m just doing to get my pension. I told bfather about how I hadn’t been doing so well lately and he hasn’t answered my email. I think if you admit to being unhappy (even if you have a mental illness) they just don’t want to hear it. It upsets their adoption apple cart. Anyone else I would have told that to would have said that they were there to talk or reach out to. Bfather: silence. More disappointment. – July 10 3:26pm

Doris Michol Sippel I have C-PTSD, depression, anxiety. My adoptive mother had several diagnosed mental illnesses for which I was treated in order to learn how to cope with her behavior. My adoptive father was her enabler. The rest of my adoptive father’s family (not all, thank goodness) all piled on the band wagon to emotionally abuse me after my reunion, so gang mentality increased my fear, anxiety, PTSD from their attacks. My natural blood family have undiagnosed mental illness, their attacks upon me are also responsible for my C-PTSD. July 16, 2017

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace I am Ruth Sippel Pace – birth sister of Doris Michol Sippel – I do not have any mental illness. I recently retired from a 43 year career as a Patient Care Assistant at a large metropolitan general hospital.

 During those 43 years, I worked on several med-surg nursing units, 4 years in the Medical Intensive Care Unit, 5 years in our Hospice Unit, several years in the Renal Transplant Unit.

 In 1995, I worked on a committee and won an award for my work on that committee – Finding New Solutions to Delivering Patient Care. I also worked several months in the Emergency Dept. in 2014.

 In 2003, between my husband and myself, we suffered the loss of six family members between July and Oct. – In Sept. 2003, my husband had open heart surgery, two weeks later, I was injured at work. I was very stressed out and one day I was reduced to a sobbing mess. I called my doctor immediately, and she had me come in the next day, whereupon she recommended I see a counselor – which I did.

I spoke with the counselor. He said there was nothing wrong with me – outside of experiencing extreme stress.

 In 1997, under the guidance of the Newburgh Coalition of Block Clubs, I organized and headed up a block club on my street. At that time I developed a ‘working’ relationship with my city district’s common council member, who to this day, remains a personal friend and supporter of my work to better my street and surrounding neighborhood.

 In 1994-95, almost daily phone calls to several departments all over the hospital for six months were placed to my employer with lies to get me fired — by Doris Michol Sippel. These calls were because at one time a patient whose name was similar to hers, got mixed up with Doris’ bill.

 I have never worked in hospital billing department – I have worked NIGHT SHIFT 11pm-7am on patient care nursing units.

 There was a meeting by hospital administration that no one was to accept any phone call from Doris.

 In 2012, she did it again, accusing me of computer fraud on my employer’s computer. My employer can (and did) trace EVERY KEYSTROKE I DID. —- I WAS EXONERATED. Who in their right mind calls someone else’s place employment over the span of almost 20 years with lies to get them fired?

Yes, we see Doris’s self-admission of mental illness.

And her self-diagnosis of ME is bordering on slander and libel, which she also was guilty of when she called my job AND published lies about me in her “autobiography” — to which I had actual police and court documents sent to her publisher. That publisher, Trafford, had their legal team go through the court documents I sent them and those official documents did not jive with the stories in her book that Doris attested were true and factual. The result? Her book was pulled from publication.

I have never been arrested, served time, served probation, yet Doris goes around saying I have. I have never taken drugs, drink only rarely.

I held down a very good job for 43 years. I am a homeowner, I had a brief fun career as a professional belly dancer in the 1980’s-90’s. I have had several people urge me to enter local politics.

I have been with my husband for 31 happy years. Yes, we have had problems, we go with the flow. Before that, I was in a domestic relationship with another good man for 10 years.

Ask yourselves — this thread is about self-confessions, NOT ATTACKS ON OTHER PEOPLE.

WHY is Doris attacking me and my other two older sisters? Because — when our mother died and for whatever reason my father relinquished her for adoption – DORIS IS BITTERLY JEALOUS THAT SHE WAS GIVEN UP FOR ADOPTION AND WE WEREN’T.

I was 3 years old when my mother died and Doris was given to adoption. My sisters were also children – 8 and 9. WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

In 1974, we were reunited with her, but within 6 years, we could see Doris’ anti-social behaviors and one by one, members of her birth family told her to leave them alone. In 1989 Doris stole almost $700.00 from me and I too told her to hit the road. And she has spent the last 28 years punishing me for that with revenge tactics, harassments, false police reports.

When her book came out in 2009, I started a blog to refute the many lies about me and my family in that book. The past couple of years, I have not done much on the blog – but Doris will NOT leave me alone — I come to this website because as the birthsister of an adoptee, I do have a connection to adoption. I come to learn. (isn’t that what adoptees always say they want us to do?) — I rarely comment, I’m not here to make trouble — but what the hell is this?

Why can’t Doris speak her contributions to this thread WITHOUT DRAGGING ME INTO AND ACCUSING ME OF HAVING A MENTAL ILLNESS?

 I want the adminstrator of this page to remove that slanderous and libelous comment that tells people that I have an undiagnosed mental illness! — If it is undiagnosed, HOW DOES DORIS KNOW I HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS?

DORIS IS NOT A LICENSED MEDICAL DOCTOR, A PSYCHIATRIST, NEVER WENT TO MED SCHOOL —

STOP ENABLING THIS KIND OF NONSENSE.

Use your brains and logic people — IF I HAVE AN ‘UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL ILLNESS’ — how does Doris KNOW I have a mental illness????? Again, I ask you — where is her medical degree? Where is her proof of such? Can she provide absolute proof of anything she says about me? NO. – I can, and I HAVE provided proof of her various harassments of me throughout the years – scanned documents that are on my blog. Letters written to me by her — and their envelopes, with dates, her signature, despite her attesting in her book on the internet that “I HAVE HAD NO CONTACT WITH MY BIRTHSISTERS FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.” — 40 years takes us back to 1977 — hmm, I must have dreamed I was one of her bridesmaids in 1983. ps – now that I’m retired, I am a Paranormal Investigator — I hunt ghosts. If that makes me mentally ill, well then so be it. I’m happy and busy living my life – Doris is a bitter woman. screw her. I’m having fun.

Nicole Haun — Me thinks she protests too much

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace — experience almost 30 years of undeserved harassment and see how you like it my dear.

Nicole Haun — Depends on what you call undeserved…

Nicole Haun — Considering you joined this group and you followed her here to harass her, I’d say she’s getting the short end of the stick.

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace — as usual, the bully gets believed, and the bully’s victim is quashed, for daring to speak up. Ms. Haun – you are one of those adoptees who take blindly the word of someone simply because they are adopted – non-adoptees like me, our story is never taken seriously –

I didn’t follow her here – she has blocked me from facebook – I can’t see her comment – a friend of mine saw it, copied and pasted it and sent it to me via fb messanger – that’s how I know about it.

 but yeah, I know of the famous feud – and again — adotpees will take the side of the adoptee (Joan/Doris) and believe her in anything she says about me — simply because she says so. — as I said, on my blog – I have scanned police documents, and scans of harassing letters she sent to me, despite her saying on the internet – her website – that she hasn’t sent me anything. — in a court of law, all evidence must be examined – to see the whole truth — you don’t want to know the truth — because it would show that >gasp< an adoptee was lying.

 eh, my story isn’t worth anything, I’m not adopted, so of course – you dismiss me. I don’t have the right to defend myself or speak the truth of my own life.. so be it. have a nice day Ms. Haun.

Nicole Haun — so you have people following her? You have a blog that publicly harasses her? Sounds like you’re perfectly normal. (That’s sarcasm in case you’ve missed it) 

Daryl Bergmann — That profile has been removed. I’m sure she’ll be back with a sock puppet profile, a problem in any public group.

Nicole Haun — Daryl Bergmann so sad

Daryl Bergmann — Yeah. Doris doesn’t mention a name. Then boom, immediately on the defense to deny any form of mental illness pops up Ruth with a prepared novel for that exact purpose. Says a lot. Far more than intended. Adoption really does suck.

Daryl Bergmann — Believe whatever you want, but when the picture always looks like this…. Joe: There’s mental illness in my family. Jim: NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME

Jack (knows nothing about past): Pardon?

Jim: There you go taking his side! You always do that! You and everyone like you!! Joe lies!!! He’s the crazy one!!! NOT ME!!!

Jack: Ooooookay then.

Daryl Bergmann — I’m sure all members will come to their own conclusions on this after reading the three previous comments and replies. I don’t feel investigating the paranormal makes one mentally ill. The viciousness and extent of the replies tend to, though. A real “Chuck McGill” moment, if you’re a “Better Call Saul” fan. Not even time will heal those wounds.

Doris Michol Sippel — In case you all are wondering where I’ve been…I’ve been quietly living my life today. Breakfast, laundry, church, lunch with a friend, grocery shopping, answered long distance phone call, prepared for work tomorrow, went to an outdoor concert, came back to this. Yes, I long ago blocked Ruthie and Gert so I cannot see their comments. All I see are the words of others talking to Ruth. Imagine being found at age 18 in 1974 by these weird women! I was in my senior year of high school, got enmeshed in their problems, got swept up in everyone’s anger at me, so I lashed back, until I sought therapy. I still cannot understand why we all have made it clear many decades ago that we want nothing to do with each other – and they still hunt me down. I do nothing to them.They attack other adoptees. …Ruth is 63 or 64, Gert is 70. I am 61. You see the content of my writing. Who has mental illness? Who admits to struggling? Me. As Daryl Bergmann said, NOT ME. Who is in denial? July 17 at 12:05am

Doris Michol Sippel — Can anyone copy and paste all comments, including Ruth’s comments, in a Word doc and email the whole thread to me? dorismicholsippel@gmail.com … Thank you.July 17 at 12:07am 

Laurel Jenkins-Crowe I hope it’s OK for me to put in that I for one would like to know what would be done with that document. Could it be anonymized?  July 17 at 7:48am

Doris Michol Sippel I’d like a full account of what Ruth wrote. Yes, it could be anonymized. And, someone already copied it for me. Thank you. I’m sorry my adoption peeps have to see this harassment. I don’t see why my life is such an obsession with Ruth and Gert. 

July 17 at 5:38pm —Laurel Jenkins-Crowe Thank you! I’m glad the request wasn’t offensive.

July 17 at 6:09pmDoris Michol Sippel Laurel Jenkins-Crowe Not at all. I understand people’s need for privacy.

Joan/Doris is just a liar! July 6, 2017

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Dead people can’t and don’t speak! But Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel continues to exploit our DEAD mother and father! July 1, 2017

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more BS crap from the idiot child who can’t allow our parents to RIP

duped by adoption & an woman's Struggle for Identity, a book study

This crap, of Joan/Doris, is just like ‘what would Jesus say’! Attempting to get a sympathy vote, a ‘oh poor me’ attitude, a cop-out from reality and stupidity.

This isn’t the first time that Joan/Doris has done this…only this time she is using both our parents as a means to influence politicians and law-makers.

If Joan/Doris really BELIEVES in wanting to have her BIRTH parents legally RECOGNIZED on her birth certificate, why did she go and write THREE lying books about our parents? Why did she put in PRINT what she DID to our father and portray him negativity, over and over again? Why did she put in PRINT lies about our mother’s medical conditions? Why did she put in PRINT lies about her birth siblings and extended family members?

Both our parents are DEAD and will NEVER speak to their children again. Knowing Joan/Doris is an atheist, she doesn’t…

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Doris Michol Sippel fka Joan Mary Wheeler was recently in a depressed state for some time (as per own admission) and WHAM! came out of it into a full-blown manic episode and foaming at the mouth over her anti-adoption and her hatred of her birth sisters. May 7, 2017

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Joan/Doris came across a website by a couple looking to adopt and made a blog post bitching about them on April 30, 2017. I was alerted to her new blogpost via my email because I subscribe to her blog. Not that I’m really interested in what that nutball has to say, but I ‘monitor’ what she writes. I have said in the past that I keep an eye on her online activities to be alerted to when she says shit about me. She calls my ‘monitoring’ her as CYBERSTALKING AND CYBERBULLYING. No, I call it monitoring to see what she says about ME. Keep your mouth shut about me Joan/Doris and then you won’t have pissed me off again. DUH!

So, yeah, I ‘subscribe’ to her blog and when I get an email notification of a new blog post by her – I go check it out. And yep, she did it again! — For a couple of years now, she has actually been posting her anti-adoption stuff (yawn) WITHOUT mentioning her birth sisters – ALL OF SUDDEN, SHE DRAGS US INTO HER SHIT AGAIN. And being spectacularly STUPID in her jab against us. Here’s the quote from her post: “I have had absolutely no contact for nearly 40 years with the sisters who found me. I want it that way. Not because I am against reunion, but because they are cruel, insanely vicious people. “

Let’s see, this is the year 2017 – minus 40 years – that takes us back to 1977. Um, Joan, asshole, did you forget I was one of your fucking bridesmaids when you got married in 1983? WHO drove you and your newborn daughter home from the hospital in 1986? And in your idiotic book you did mention that you and I used to be close, going to the beach together with your kids in 1989. Were you having a Donny Trump incoherent moment there? Listen, sweetie, if you want to be taken seriously, you need to get your math and facts correct – And I am NOT going to deal with “alternative facts” concerning MY life. Don’t forget, you filled your book with ‘alternative facts’ but – my sending the actual police and court documents to Trafford Publications is what counted – the real facts, baby, the real truth of what happened, and because you tried to pull a fast one, lying to Trafford that everything in your book was ‘factual and true,’ MY truthful documents got your book pulled from publication.

Also on facebook, when Joan/Doris shared her blog post to the facebook group “Adoption Sucks” she calls us “evil” – so, I am an evil cruel, insanely vicious person? Really Joan? really? Hows that again where in 2012 you called my job with lies to get me fired? And then you were on twitter dragging me into something I didn’t know anything about and accusing me of doing something, while I was sleeping. — I had no idea what she was talking about until I called a cousin to find out that another cousin’s husband had died, and I was NOT to arrange an adoption of her little girl. -????? newsflash – I’ve never been in the adoption industry.

Well, let’s talk about EVIL here.

 EVIL – calling your sister’s workplace with lies to get her fired. — that’s what Joan/Doris did to me in 1994-95 and 2012.

 EVIL is writing a letter to your sister telling her that her husband got the next door neighbor pregnant – and the house was vacant – that’s what Joan/Doris did to me in 1997.

 EVIL is scamming your sister out of $700.00 – that’s what Joan/Doris did to me in 1989.

Get your ‘evil sister’ straight Joan/Doris.

Let’s talk about LIES Joan/Doris –

Joan/Doris also said on the “Adoption Suck’s fb page that she figured out how to stop us from commenting on her blog. – um, nope, we never commented on her stupid blog. And she said she can’t stop me from liking her latest blog post – um, no, I never “liked’ her latest blog post. — here’s what she said: “Just a reminder, folks: please, let’s have more comments on this over at my blog! I finally figured out how to block my evil sisters from commenting. But I could not blocked them individually from the “Like” Button, so that is why I didn’t activate one. So please, head on over and fill up the comments! Thanks!”

Joan/Doris apparently was also ‘sanctioned’ by facebook because — she was willfully engaged in calling for CYBERSTALKING the website, the private email, and the public facebook page of the couple who were looking to adopt.

May 2 at 11:37pm — Doris Michol Sippel Hmm… I was punished by Facebook and blocked from posting for several days. WHY? Because I posted the contact info for J. HUH? THEY posted it on their blog and Facebook page! Well, I have it on file! Still gonna educated these morons!

UH, Joni/Doris, — maybe you should stop cyberbullying people. Oh? What’s that you said about me CYBERSTALKING AND CYBERBULLYING you when I freely admit to ‘monitoriing’ what you say about me? — Yes, another example of Joan/Doris doing exactly to people what she bitches about people ‘doing’ to her. What a fucking moronic hypocrite.

Now, let’s talk about Joan/Doris deigning to EDUCATE people. — “Still gonna educated these morons!” — she was foaming at the mouth at the couple who want to adopt because they said the wrong word. By the way, the past tense indicated by the d at the end of ‘educate’ was by Joan/Doris herself – the great, the all-knowing, the wonderful heroine of all adoptees. (yeah right). (Joan, dear, if you want to ‘educate’ people, be sure you are using correct grammar and spelling.)

Last time she ‘educated’ someone in ‘proper adoption terminology’ was in November 2017, at her very own first (and probably her last) book signing! She attended a group book signing for local authors sponsored by a local museum and she struck up a conversation with the author to her right, and then when the woman used ‘improper adoption terminology’ – Joan began yelling and screaming at her. No, I wasn’t there to witness it. How do I know what happened? JOAN/DORIS HERSELF POSTED ABOUT IT ON FACEBOOK!!! — Yes, JOAN/DORIS WAS ACTUALLY PROUD OF HERSELF FOR ACTING LIKE A BITCH! I doubt very much that she will have any book signings in the future.

Well Joan/Doris — I will use the adoption terminology that I always have and what YOU yourself always have — we are BIRTH-sisters. NOT sisters at all. YOU gave up the right to call yourself my sister when you finagled that money out of me, reneged on your promise to repay me, and started on your hate-filled harassments of me. Want a refresher Joan – read about your fucking EVIL AND VICIOUSLY CRUEL THINGS YOU DID TO ME – right here on this page of this blog: What is Demanded from Joan Wheeler (click here to be directed to new page–— who’s the EVIL one Joan? YOU ARE.

And as for ‘educating’ people, why don’t you educate your fellow angry adoptees on — infertility, that YOU boasted to me on the phone in 1987, saying “I know more about infertility than you think I do.” — no, bitch, you know nothing. And talk about evil and cruely vicious – THREE FUCKING TIMES I TOLD YOU DURING THAT PHONE CONVERSATION THAT I DIDN’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY MISCARRIAGE AND YOU KEPT YOUR FUCKING EVIL CRUEL MOUTH GOING UNTIL I SLAMMED THE PHONE DOWN.

You had given birth to two beautiful children by then, you knew that I had been trying to get pregnant for years, you were at the hospital while I was in surgery to repair the damage from my ectopic pregnancy. But YOU ‘knew’ more about infertility than me? I don’t think so bitch.

Here – why don’t you go educate your fellow angry adoptee who left this evil, cruel and vicious comment to the couple you attacked on April 30,. 2017. “my advice is to just keep fking , one of the little buggers will do the job eventually!”

Joan/Doris, you claim to be an expert in genetics, baby-making, sperm and egg stuff, sperm donors, etc., and with your extensive list of ex-boyfriends, you have the knowledge to educate that particular moron. Not only in how a sperm and an egg might meet or might not meet but in your extensive knowledge in men. You must know more positions that are in the kama-sutra!

aw, was that last paragraph evil and viciously cruel of me? TOO BAD. You asked for it bitch – next time, don’t drag me into your anti-adoption stuff.

But let us continue talking about evil and cruelly vicious people- Remember that time you were part of that discussion group Adult Adoptees Advocating for Change and you ‘angry adoptees’ were pissed at actress Edie Falco being an adoptive mom? And one bitch in that group said “Would someone stuff a sock in her (Edie Falco’s) mouth, soak it in gasoline and set it on fire?”

You, Joan/Doris and all your ‘angry adoptees’ buddies are all a bunch of sick assholes.

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gertmcqueen – May 8, 2017 

excellent post! The reason that Joan/Doris was PUNISHED by Facebook was NOT because she published someone’s phone or personal info (which was posted via them on their page) but BECAUSE J/D WILLFULLY cyber-stalked, harassed and called for OTHERS to do the same and then contact FB that the page was spam! J/D did the same thing to that author in Buffalo last Dec. Ruth and my comments are still on the FB page AGAINST J/D’s actions.

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2017/01/03/if-this-is-how-doris-m-sippeljoan-m-wheeler-behaves-towards-another-author-at-her-first-book-signing-than-she-ought-to-be-banned-from-book-signings/

She thinks nothing of destroying other people if they DON’T do as she says! She has done this ALL her life! If anyone really WANTS to know about her just read Ruth and my blogs and the back and forth comments on Amazon for her 3 lying books and the forums on Amazon. Sure that would be a LOT of work, but with OUT THE KNOWLEDGE of J/D’s CHARACTER and her past DEEDS AND WORDS, no one can counter her. In other words…if you are HER VICTIM you must take actions against her. How? Spread the words about her to your friends and your agencies, PRIVATELY. Here’s what you NEED.

The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism’ was published in 2009 but then was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011, for libelous material within the book. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and rewrote and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/ this blog is titled Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

 this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

Also see this Facebook page…which is a STUDY of the books.

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoptionStruggleforIdentity1/

 In addition…see the ‘discussion’ forums, on Amazon, for two of the books. The first book has one review and several comments related.

 Forbidden Family: My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption forum

 https://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Adoptee-Duped-Adoption/forum/Fx16ZHWP5PQHHCK/-/1/ref=cm_cd_fp_rvt?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00X520CGW

 Joan Mary Wheeler forum

https://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/forum.html/ref=cm_cd_rvt?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx3T0YAD0KXNPP5

 review of first book and 4 comments

https://www.amazon.com/Forbidden-Family-Joan-M-Wheeler/dp/1412061547

 

Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel has come out of her depressive state & gone right into her manic state! She is really foaming at the mouth! May 4, 2017

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Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

She is a stalker, harasser, bully, browbeater and an all-round sicko nut case! She does NOT understand that her tactics actually are HATE speech. She does NOT engage the other in a common ground learning setting where each opposite view point COULD learn from the other. No, what she does is a form of hate speech. Her view is the ONLY ONE acceptable to her.

In this sharing of (J/D) Joan/Doris’s blog post I am taking OUT identification references; there’s no reason for these actions of J/D. She goes OUT of her way to find PRO-ADOPTION people just to BEAT them up! Unfortunately, I know that some have the ways and means to find the original; I just can’t fix or prevent that! People, use your common sense and decency! WHY, why do you ALLOW Joan/Doris to speak to people in the way she does? If you do, you obviously…

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Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel is a TERRORIST May 3, 2017

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everyone needs to know

duped by adoption & an woman's Struggle for Identity, a book study

She targets pro-adoption people. She stirs the flames of hate against them. She rallies others to share personal information about those she has bullied, stalked, harassed and intimidated.  She has done this many times and I have DOCUMENTED them here on our blogs. I shall continue to do so.

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It’s bad enough when someone hates their own life because of something and engages in various forms of self-harm, but when that same person goes out of their way to destroy others, year after year, that hatred becomes very DANGEROUS.

Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel is a very dangerous person! She’s not alone, for sure, BUT because she has diagnosed mental conditions she is USED and ENCOURAGED by others that have some kind of self-control and wouldn’t think of acting out. Joan/Doris has NO SELF CONTROL; her hate is the only emotion that keeps her alive!…

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eight signs of narcissistic behaviors; Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel has them February 24, 2017

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duped by adoption & an woman's Struggle for Identity, a book study

learn these traits, think about them when you read anything that she writes, it will save you a lot of grief

https://www.powerofpositivity.com/8-signs-narcissist/

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A call to Doris Michol Sippel fka Joan Mary Wheeler to step up to the plate and use her activism skills for something worthwhile. February 12, 2017

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Now this is something I would like Doris Michol Sippel fka Joan Mary Wheeler to tackle. Instead of her incredibly futile desire of abolishing the institution of adoption worldwide, THIS is something she has spoken out against – and in this thing – I can stand with her. — philosophically that is.

Joan/Doris, I KNOW you read my blog – so put your ‘expert activism’ to use now.

The orange chimp in the White House and all the other idiots like this Senator Joe Hensley of Tennessee that proposed a bell that deems children conceived by artificial insemination to be illegitimate, need to be stopped. 

The link here takes you to a news report on this. 

Proposed bill deems children born through artificial insemination illegitimate children

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1. gertmcqueen – February 13, 2017

 yep this is right up her alley…so perhaps she ought to take up that flag and rally her troops to stop such a horrible thing! oh but wait… as long as the birth certificate isn’t falsified or the child is adopted she couldn’t care in the least! Nope this isn’t anything she’d spent her life on…she’d rather continue to publish lies about her…OUR…family.

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Ruth – February 13, 2017

 “as long as the birth certificate isn’t falsified or the child is adopted she couldn’t care in the least!”

ABSOLUTELY TRUE – she didn’t even give two shits about her own two kids – her selfish self simply HAD to go see the Monkees in concert in September 1986 (even though she had already seen the concert at a different venue in July 1986) – she was 8 months pregnant with a toddler at home.

Two weeks after the concert, she’s calling me on the phone whining her electricity was getting cut off for non-payment.

Now they don’t come and shut off your electricity for missing one or two months payments – you must not be paying it for at least 4 months before they get that mad at you — so you mean to tell me she didn’t pay her electricity for about 4 months – but was able to find money to attend TWO ROCK CONCERTS?

SO MUCH FOR JOAN/DORIS caring for her own children – her children weren’t adopted, and their birth certificates weren’t ‘falsified’ – so fuck ’em!

Doris Michol Sippel aka Joan Mary Wheeler just CAN’T keep her mouth shut about me. She gets shot down on Huffington Post, and brings me into it – even tho I was OUT of it (Jan, 2017). February 11, 2017

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I have been meaning to put up this blog post for a month now. But life keeps getting in the way. Wierd how that works. lol. This is about Joan/Doris browbeating people, as usual, who have a different viewpoint than her. In this case, a simple article about human breast milk turns into Joan putting down adoptive mothers (her favorite past time because she has no life other than heaping hate onto adopters and adoption), flinging mud at people, and getting the mud flung right back at her, and then frigging DRAGGING ME INTO IT.  

I had seen the preview to this article when a Facebook friend of mine shared it. I glanced at the article, didn’t bother to comment on it. Gert looked at the article and comments and noticed one comment by Cathy D. that said basically that Joan was wrong and countered Joan’s claim that adoptive moms who breastfeed their adoptive children (if they are able to) are abusing the babies and commented that Joan does not know what abuse is. Gert answered Cathy, another commenter disagreed with Joan, and Joan was off and running – trashing Cathy D. and Ramona J. (the second commenter), Gert, and by extension ME. — Joan said “And, if there are any comments here from my sisters ( they are blocked from my Facebook but I can guess they are still cyber stalking me) I can assure you that they are guilty of many abuses upon me and my adoptive mother, and my children. ” — Take note how she types sister(S) – plural, when only ONE sister (Gert) had commented, and then notice how she goes out of her way to say she can’t see OUR comments, because she has blocked us, and then proceeds to tell LIES about us again. I’d like to know what abuses I heaped on her mother and kids. As to anything I wrote to or about her, was in answer to the abuses she has done to me! But this post is not about all that – it’s that I’d like to know WHY Joan went out of her way to mention us. — But I already know the answer to that question — we CAN see each other comments on Huffington Post AND Gert and I DO see Joan’s Facebook posts because sometimes people will take screenshots and send them to us via Facebook private message. 

So, if Gert and I can SEE Joan’s activity, Joan can see US. And she SAW Gert’s comment – because otherwise, she wouldn’t have brought us into the conversation – IF she hadn’t seen Gert’s comment, she would have kept the mud-slinging to Cathy D. and Ramona J. – AND she ONLY saw Gert’s comment – not anything from ME, because — I HAD NOT WRITTEN A COMMENT. — So WHY the sister(S) plural? Because Joan WANTS me in her life. Despite always saying on the internet she wants me OUT of it. 

She has not mentioned us online in a looooonnnngggg time. She must be getting lonely. We have noticed, that when Joan is ill, breaks up with her boyfriend-of-the-month, something goes wrong in her life (usually of her own doing), she gets going on the internet and says something she knows we will see. We have made her aware that we MONITOR (she calls it cyber-stalking), but we MONITOR what she says BECAUSE OF THIS HERE BULLSHIT. She can’t keep her fucking mouth SHUT about us.  

Her latest act of self-sabotage was on November 26, 2016, when she appeared at her very first book-signing event as an author. A local history museum sponsored a group book-signing event for new/up-and-coming authors. Joan, striving to become a ‘noted author,’ gets into an argument with the lady next to her and began SCREAMING at the woman, because the woman used “wrong adoption terminology.” At a public event, JOAN IS SCREAMING AT SOMEONE. — Then Joan takes it two notches higher (or rather lower, since she is a low-life, and she always engages in underhanded shit) – she posts on December 1, 2016 on Facebook of how PROUD she is that she VERBALLY ABUSED this woman (but reports that her sisters ‘abuse’ her) and then publicizes the woman’s contact info and commands other wacko adoptees to CYBER-STALK and otherwise stalk the woman (but bitches when (?) her sisters cyber stalk her). My guess is that Joan KNOWS she shot herself in the foot by acting like an asshole at the book-signing event, and turned people against her, and had ‘gone into herself’ again. (she does that when she is in the depressive state of her bi-polarism). And then decided she wanted contact with her birth siblings again. (and we have noticed that this is what she does when she goes depressive – she starts talking about us). She desperately WANTS us in her life. AND because — she only saw ONE comment from ONE birth sister – Gert, and ONLY Gert, she decided to pluralize it – to DRAG ME INTO IT. And I responded as I always do – throw the mud right back at her.  

So here is the entire comment exchange and the link to the webpage: 

Joan’s first comment: commenting as her birth name Doris Michol Sippel

Doris Michol Sippel · Owner-operator at Self-Employed A quote from the article: “ ‘As I was reading an article about how breast milk carries up to a million white blood cells in one drop, my mom was already looking at her blood, so I asked if we could see the white blood cells in my milk while she had the microscope on,’ she recalled.” 

Nature intended mothers to breastfeed their own babies. But, all-to-eager and misguided adoptive “mothers” have convinced doctors to build a breastfeeding apparatus that straps onto the woman, with a bag of milk or formula attached to a tube which is placed near the nipple so that the infant she adopted from the real mother can suckle. The action of suckling, combined with drugs the woman takes to artificially stimulate her mammary glands to produce milk, eventually begins to produce milk. Thus, an adopter can breastfeed the newborn.  

To adopters, this is great! Photos have been plastered all over the internet by bragging adopters about this wonderful invention. 

From the baby’s perspective, however, this is deception. The baby is fed artificially produced milk from a mother who is not the biological mother. So there are no correct antibodies, no natural white blood cells in this milk. This is a form of sexual abuse, child abuse, and medical malpractice. 

What other microscopic bits are passed on through breastmilk? Can artificially produced breastmilk from a non-biologiocal mother harm an infant?  

Perhaps it is time to ask the medical profession to protect infants from this forced abuse. 

I am an adopted person who has researched adoption since 1974. Many other adopted individuals are also repulsed by adopters who think they can fulfill a biological role that only the real mother can fulfil. (sic) 

Thank you for posting this as a reality wake up call to those who think they can imitate nature. 

Jan 9, 2017 8:16pm

Cathy D.· Owner-operator at You design      …Abuse? I think you might need to look up the definition of “abuse.” You do realize that without that “artifically produced milk” the baby would still require artifically produced milk from another mammal in order to sustain life, correct? If an adoptive parent goes to that great a length to nurture a baby when that same result can easily be purchased, that child is the very furthest thing from abused. Please seek counselling, your issues with adoption are not healthy. 

 Jan 9, 2017 11:37pm      Gert Mcqueen · Works at Happily Retired Cathy D… Doris Michol Sippel (adopted as Joan Mary Wheeler) has a long history of histrionics; she likes drama, likes to shock people. By using these techniques she thinks people will listen to her profound wisdoms for they don’t have ‘her’ background and knowledge (she’s an expert). Generally people are turned off by her. No amount of reasoning works on her! She’s anti-adoption so any topic that she can hijack, she will, to promote her anti-adoption crap. 

Ramona J.      Doris, your adoption experience is not that of all adopted people. Help is available for your issues. Clearly you require professional assistance to deal with them. 

Doris Michol Sippel · Owner-operator at Self-Employed      Ramona J. I do not need help, thank you. I am an activist. You people are sorely uniformed. And, if there are any comments here from my sisters ( they are blocked from my facebook but I can guess they are still cyberstalking me) I can assure you that they are guilty of many abuses upon me and my adoptive mother, and my children. Go ahead, have a heyday. I have been mocked since 1974. Yet, I stand strong in my activism, for I know I am right. Think what you like, water off the duck’s back. 

Gert McQueen to Ramona    Ramona J…

Ah yes.. Doris Michol Sippel (adopted as Joan Mary Wheeler) does indeed detest her birth siblings! Why?? Because we bring forth the exploitation, libel and misrepresentations that ‘she’ has written about OUR PARENTS! She can’t abide that anyone should contradict her! She’s been in ‘therapy’ for over 30 years, she does love therapy! When I ADOPTED my flesh and blood in ‘step-parent’ adoption, she could NOT abide that! Why? She’s anti-adoption, period, end of story, don’t try to convince her of anything other than what she KNOWS…poor baby! No one understand her!

Her first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism’ published in 2009, was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011 due to libelous material in it. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’, being her own editor and owner. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and reedited and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people! 

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace · Queen at Retired     ah yes, the old “lump all her birth-sisters into one entity delusion.”

I am the other birth sister (Gert is one, I am the other). I read all this a few hours ago and was not interested in leaving a comment, but since Joan/Doris dragged me into it.  

Cyberstalking??? Let’s talk plain stalking. Back in November 2012, Joan/Doris wrote a letter to my job with lies to get me fired. Which she has been doing on and off since 1995. I hauled her into court, but in July 2013 the judge dismissed the charges, because I hadn’t been affected by it – i.e. not sanctioned by my job. Joan/Doris said I was committing computer fraud. lol. But my employer can and did trace every keystroke that I had done. I was exonerated. So, since I hadn’t ‘suffered’ anything – the charges were dismissed. BUT prior to my filing the charges, Joan/Doris went right here on Huffington and BRAGGED about calling my job to get me fired. – it’s under her comments under Joan M Wheeler – you’ll have to search for it. 

Also in 2013 she had her boyfriend threaten me via his blog to expose my ‘dark dirty secret.’ (I have no idea what that is). I told him via MY blog that I do not respond to emotional blackmail and that if he knows something about me to go right ahead and say it. And the Buffalo police and the Erie County District Attorney would be very interested in finding out how and why this man, who never met me, never spoke to me, knows things about me and is threatening me. — lol. apparently, he broke up with Joan/Doris right after that. 

by the way, prior to that blackmail attempt, on his blog he was asking about a fight I had with an Arab lady whose name started with S. — oh my gods! that was in September 1979!!! Joan/Doris is going around telling her boyfriends 35 year old gossip about me!!! lol – lol – lol. 

Joan/Doris had her first book pulled from publication because I sent police/court documents to Trafford Publications that proved that she libled me in her book. 

Well, now that I’ve retired, she can’t call my job anymore to get me fired. I have taken her toy away.

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1. gertmcqueen – February 13, 2017

NOTE WELL what two different people say here to Joan/Doris…

1) Please seek counselling, your issues with adoption are not healthy.

2) Help is available for your issues. Clearly you require professional assistance to deal with them.

and what Joan/Doris says…

I do not need help, thank you. I am an activist. You people are sorely uniformed.

And this is why we keep shining the light on J/D…everyone else sees and knows what she does not. She’s right everyone else is wrong.

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