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JoanMWheeler/DorisMSippel gives expert advice – NOT! and other observations of the latest bout of mouth diarrhea from Joan M. Wheeler April 22, 2011

Posted by Ruth in Contradictions of Joan Wheeler, Joan Wheeler Speak - how Joan views the world, Refuting Joan Wheelers statements.
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by Gert McQueen

NOTE…this post was written and posted here BEFORE I had my own computer

Joan Wheeler doesn’t like being lied to…YET…she has no problem lying about others!! How can that be, I ask you??

 It amazes me, to no end, how a person can believe two separate and different things at the same time and not see how that doesn’t work in the real world. It’s called cognitive dissonance!

 The other thing that amazes me is how a person can believe that only therapy can make their life whole! That’s pretty sad!!

 Now while I’ll agree that there are times in a life when a person might need help, of various kinds, I have had to have some help from ‘professionals’ on occasion, but, to say that ONLY therapy can help only proves to me that that individual must really be off their rocker and therefore not to be trusted nor believed. Or, they are just WORKING the system and are a PERMANENT victim and NO GOOD for anybody and again ought not to be trusted nor listened to.

 I also agree and can understand the NEED to have proper documentation of identity and that there are things that happen in life that are NOT fair BUT at some point in a adulthood a person NEEDS TO LET IT GO AND GROW UP. If an adoptee has the proper documentation for identity WHY all the crying and carrying on about what happen? Give it a break already! All this anger doesn’t really help other people, all it does is keep sick people sick and a victim.

  On April 16, 2011 Joan has this to say about her Amended Birth Certificate:

  My ABC long form has the City, and the hospital, and the time of birth! I’d really like the authorities to try to locate any hospital records for said mother giving birth — she did not give birth to me! My blood boils every time I think about it.

   Okay, most people would just see this as a legal fiction…governments do that ALL THE TIME, its part of the cost of living in a world of DOCUMENTATION AND LAWS and a means to keep its population intact. ANYONE who is looking at a adoption certificate KNOWS that it is a legal fiction and they take it for GRANTED that an amended birth certificate is a LEGAL LIE. So…what’s the sense in having so much anger that your ‘blood boils’? Boiling blood, as in so much anger, will NOT fix the legal fiction and will and can DESTROY a person’s health! Joan’s health has been destroyed  yet she won’t let go of her anger…she loves her anger!

 On April 19, 2011 Joan Wheeler said the following…

 A few years ago, my therapist asked me if my amom knew how I felt about being lied to all of my life. That stopped me cold. No, she didn’t know because I didn’t tell her exactly how I felt and why. So I did. It doesn’t matter how old they are, you just have to come clean with your feelings and be specific as to why. You may not get a response, but you may get a partial response. My amom at least talked through some of the issues of adoption and we came to resolution about the official lie of our birth certificates,, but as to keeping my adoption a secret, no, there was never a resolution of that issue. Once your aparents die, there is only you left to cope with the mess. That part is not very helpful, but at least if you speak your mind now you won’t be regretful when she is no longer here to attempt to talk things out. Therapy is the only way to get through the rest.

 Joan has been going to therapists all of her life…gee when will she get OFF therapy? Who pays for this? Obviously not Joan because she doesn’t work and is on SSD so that means that all NY state taxpayers are supporting Joan’s addiction to therapy! This therapy certainly hasn’t helped Joan’s physical conditions either…for that to get better Joan would have to drop all her anger. And everyone wonders why the cost of health care is so high!

 Interesting how Joan can give advise to ‘come clean with your feelings and be specific as to why’ when it comes to something SHE deems to be important but NOT for anything related to the other person, in particular anyone that is related to Joan (by blood or adoption). No, our feelings, specific or not, DON’T matter at all to Joan. So you is she kidding? She doesn’t live by the advise she freely gives. Why is it that Joan doesn’t want to have a therapy session with her birth sisters to ‘come to a resolution’ on the issues that we have between us? Because to do that, find resolution, would mean that Joan would have to concede to things she doesn’t want to oncede to…that she is wrong on so many things!

And again we hear how poor Joan is left all alone to deal with the mess, now that the aparent is dead. What mess? Joan has always been alone in her mess…the only different now is that she doesn’t have that adoptive mother to browbeat and yell at! Yep, Joan has no problem speaking her mind…too bad that she doesn’t think before speaking her mind or allow others to speak their mind. Yep, therapy is the only way to get through it all!!

Joan also said the following:

I also want to address the idea that someone brought up about the difference of being crazy rather than being mean. I think there is a distinct possiblity that amoms are in such denial of the horrors that adoption lies have put their adotpees through that they just can’t come clean with what they did. Back in the fifties, it was the thing to do: raise a child as happy and as care-free as possible. So what if there were major ommissions in the truth of the background of the adoptee? That doesn’t matter because we’ve got you now and everything is going to okay. In their minds, they did nothing wrong. But speak your mind to your amom anyway, may be you’ll break through.

 Here we have an example of Joan’s expert social worker’s opinion, from a person who has NEVER held a job as a social worker…that adoptive parents are in denial of the horrors that adoption lies cause the child. And that the parents can’t come clean with what they did. My god! Who made Joan the avenger of all adoptees against all adoptive parents for the horrible crime of maintaining a legal fiction, with the help of the government, against the poor helpless infant that was adopted!!

 Adoption didn’t just start in the 50s when Joan was born, it has been around as long as the human race as been around and it will continue to be around as long as there are children that need parents and governments will continue to enact laws to provide legal fictions according to the laws of their governments. So Joan can continue to beat her head on the brick wall and scream and yell all she wants because she will never get want she wants and as long as she continues with her anger that makes her blood boil she will be physically, mentally, and spiritually SICKER than she already is!

A person is only as good as their last show and Joan’s last show, on the Huffington Post site, was pretty bad! There is not going to be any comeback for her…she is finished! Joan ought to take her own advise!

UPDATE OCTOBER 2017;  I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism’ was published in 2009 but then was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011, for libelous material within the book. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and rewrote and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people!

https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/ this blog is titled Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

this blog’s title/sub title is… DUPED BY ADOPTION & AN WOMAN’S STRUGGLE FOR IDENTITY, A BOOK STUDY an in-depth analyzes of the books called Forbidden Family; My Life as an Adoptee Duped by adoption & An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel.

Also see this Facebook page


In addition…see the ‘discussion’ forums, on Amazon, for two of the books. The first book has one review and several comments related.

Forbidden Family: My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption forum

Joan Mary Wheeler forum

review of first book and 4 comments


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