off blog topic – massacre at a movie theatre July 20, 2012Posted by Ruth in mental illness, Uncategorized.
I have been a fan of the Batman character since I was about 10 years old and reading the comic books. This disgusting display of cowardice and depravity maddens and sickens me. Socio-paths like the idiot who shot little kids should be locked up in the psych ward! Better yet – put them in the jails where the lowest of the low will make them their “bitch.”
Joan Wheeler once said that I have a “hardness.” Yeah, ‘cos I didn’t grow up in the lily-white suburb of Kenmore, NY and I wasn’t spoiled rotten and made to feel “entitled.” I have a hardness that keeps me self-reliant, with a genral mistrust of strangers and I have learned how to protect myself. At the age of sixty, I don’t relish the idea of myself needing to be in a physcial altercation. But believe you me, if it calls for it, I will. I am still very strong and will mop the floor with someone who tries some shit with me. And if an assailant is bigger than me, and it looks as tho I will go down, you better believe me – I will take them with me.
Yeah, I have a “hard” side – but I also have a “soft” side – I have worked the past 40 years delivering direct hands-on patient care in a large hospital. And as much as I am angry at this disgusting event, I am also saddened. What the hell could be going through someone’s mind that they could do this thing?
Angry at the world? what the hell for? You got air in your lungs, you got life! what the hell is the matter with you people? Yeah – I’m directing this at those so-called “adult” adoptees that proudly proclaim themselves as “angry” “militant” – the dumb fuck bitch at the adult adoptees advocating for change forum that posted a couple of months ago about actress Edie Falco – “someone should soak a sock in gasoline, stuff it in her mouth and set it on fire.” WTF? – Why? Because she adopted someone? You are one sick bitch you know that?
I classify Joan Wheeler with that sick bitch as well – because she even wrote in her book that she took her own children’s toys, school artwork, and baby pictures and BURNED THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LIVING ROOM IN FRONT OF THEM! She proudly told a birth cousin of that too! When that cousin told me that, I told my husband – he called Joan a “sadistic bitch.” I totally agree.
This world is full of sadistic bitches – they need to be exterminated.
- 1. gertmcqueen –
Ruth…you are so right!
In today’s world, everyone who goes anywhere, must keep their eyes and ears open and if something doesn’t look right…stand up and question it…
how come NOBODY questioned that the guy went out the emergency door? and when someone came in…it DOESN’T mean that it’s part of the SHOW! People are stupid but they are getting stupider by the second
And what the the hell is a 3 mo old baby during at a midnight movie? What the fu,….when my children were little, if I had no babysitter, I STAYED HOME personally I’m tired, real tired, of going out to dinner to have nothing but screaming brats, age 2 years and older destroying MY DINNER
We can go on and on …but when a person has or had personal experience with a fucking nut case, like Joan Wheeler and they tell the world and the world WILL NOT listen…that world had better not come back and blame US….WE HAVE BEEN TELLING EVERYONE FOR DECADES…
LISTEN UP PEOPLE…..LOOK AROUND YOU,
you never knew when a nut case will snap2. beyonddead –
What troubles me is with almost every single killing of this type is heard the description of the killer stopping to reload. Now in some countries you best keep shooting because the moment you stop your likely dead. This reminds me of the September 11th plane hijackings allegedly involving nothing more than box cutters. The way I see it if you got someone who has placed themselves in a position of superiority over all others might you think that if and when that same individual had stopped for a moment that someone be it one or several might take that one in five risk and take the fucker out.3. Ruth –
Right Joe –
but we can all be armchair quarterbacks after the fact. – I’m thinking the theatre was dark, people were in stunned shock – stunned into immobility.
My husband says the same things you have said – but I reminded him that as a Navy Seal in Vietnam, he was trained to kill when an opportunity presents itself – even in a split second.
Just as the events of September 11 taught a lot of airline passengers to act and subdue troublemakers (and we have seen that a lot lately) – this might put more people in the mindset that we are Americans and tired of people acting like idiots – whether they be foreigners like Al-Qaida, or American traitors like this creep. And this creep IS a traitor – to the Constitution of the United States and to his fellow Americans. Indeed, he is a traitor to all of humanity.
So Ruth gets this blog comment… July 18, 2012Posted by gertmcqueen in Uncategorized.
It is placed on the ‘front’ page where it states ‘read before commenting’ which has the current notice about Brian Maloney, henchman of Joan Wheeler.
One could assume that the comment was a reaction to the statement of and about Brian, for the commenter does use the pronoun ‘he’ and jumps to conclusions. But, then they leave a second comment, 10 minutes later, and that is where the most ‘telling’ factors are! It is my belief that this commenter is Joan Wheeler! But hey I’ve been wrong before! I have stated that I believe that Joan Wheeler has imaginary friends and a multiple personality disorder, and even though Brian admitted to his identity, once he was exposed, he continued to NOT defend Joan against my assertions that she has multiple personalities and identify himself. But we are not talking about Brian here…
Now I will state here and now that I COULD be wrong and this is NOT Joan, but anyway…
The first short comment is so difficult to understand where this person is coming from…
(1)As an adopted child, I can attest to the frustration of adoption. You are the adult. You needed to be there with love for him. He is supposed to be your son but you obviously won’t love him of he’s bad. Should he be punished for his actions? Yes. Completely. But he should also be shown an example of love. And I don’t believe he learned it from you.
Gert here…I don’t get this, it seems as if this person was talking to and about an different blog…but…they state they are an adopted child…Joan doesn’t like that phrase and this could be her way of disguising herself, by making this person use ‘child’ instead of ‘adult’…or Joan is now ‘the’ child again. Then…she says she can ‘attest’…does a 17 year old use that word? We find out in comment #2 that she is 17. I don’t want to insult the intelligent of anyone 17 or whatever. I know many young adults that are well informed and articulate, but this person is NOT and between the two comments, supposedly by the same person, we find many inconsistencies. If this is Joan it is sloppy, sloppy and it appears as if she has reverted backwards in mentally. If it is not Joan then this person needs to learn to communicate better.
Now to the second comment, which I’m going to divide in two…
(2a)Okay, I’m sorry, one more thing, to the author of this blog, your blog is smothered in bigotry. I am a seventeen adopted girl and I have been emotionally abused by my “mother” my whole life. I tried to killmyself at six years old. My while life I’ve been told by my parenslts to suck it up. And not complain. I always thought I was weak for being so depressed, I have always felt guilty for not wishing to live. However, I am now finally seeking help, and am trying to tell myself I’m not a freak or a bad kid, and here someone who is supposed to be an adult is writing hurtful things about something she most clearly does not understand. You have generalized based on a bad experience.
Gert here…the fact that this person HAD to come back and say more, points to Joan…she always has more to say…and ‘bigotry’ is a term that Joan uses a lot when she is faced with another’s insistence on their own opinions on a topic, such as adoption and ‘smothered’, could it be that Joan is being ‘smothered’ by the birthsiblings’ insistence on telling our side of the story?
It is telling that this 17 year old admits to being , abused by ‘mother’, tried to kill herself, was told to ‘suck it up’ and stop complaining; we know that Joan’s adoptive mother was a dominant force and Joan admits, in many forms that such could be possible in her childhood. Also, the admittance of being ‘weak, depressed, guilty, being a freak or bad kid’…all point to a young Joan under a dominant hand. Then the ‘I am now finally seeking help’…a constant refrain of Joan’s. And the young Joan saying, ‘someone who is supposed to be an adult is writing hurtful things about something she most clearly does not understand’. Notice the subtle shift from confused 17 year old remembering childhood, to, correct choice of pronoun (she) and adjective/verb (most clearly) and that ‘does not understand’…Joan tells us we don’t understand being an adoptee! And in the next sentence ‘generalized’…what all adoptees against one experience with Her! Not a very good cover here…Joan!
(2b)No, adopted children should not use “adopted child syndrome” as a cop out. But likewise, women with bad experiences with ONE crappy person who HAPPENS to be adopted should not right rude, illogical blogs about adopted people. Normally I am pretty okay with differing views, but you are being immature because you are just being mean be user of your hurt feelings! I am a productive citizen, I go to church, I am involved in a service club at my school, I am an artist, I love piano, and I’m adopted. Get over it and be more respectful of people’s feelings.
Gert here…this is the big give-away…“adopted child syndrome” as a cop out. Perhaps Lori from AmFor has gotten upset over our attention towards that ‘syndrome’ and has spoken with Joan! Note the self-righteous indignation over WOMEN (note the plural here, she is not just talking to Ruth, the author of this blog, but to the women who are her sisters!) and the self-effacing term ‘ONE crappy person’; when Joan is frustrated at the insistence of her birthsiblings she starts debasing herself.
And the terms ‘rude, illogical blogs about adopted people.’; that sure points to the fact that we have more than ONE blog and we do talk about adopted people! And then the insults…immature and mean…and the litany of positives of the writer (who is back in highschool) and then the statement…I’m adopted so you had better ‘get over it and be more respectful of people’s feelings. There she told us!
I bet Joan has gotten flak from other adoptees and she can’t handle it because they, the adoptees, will not come to help her and Brian, her defender, can’t stop us and so she has to go back to going after us all by herself! Yep…Joan, its time for you to pack it in!
- 1. Ruth
Yes, sometimes it is difficult to know if a commentor is really a different person or if it is Joan. Since this blog’s inception, there have been hits to it on an almost daily basis from proxy sites. We know this is Joan. Joan goes to the blogspot blogger site and goes to a random blog, usually picking one that orignates from a foreign country. On that blogger site is a search button to search that blog for a phrase. When the phrase comes up as not on that blog, another search menu box pops up, allowing you to search the entire web.Typing in my blog’s name, or Gert’s blog’s name, takes you right to our blog, via a blog originating in a foreign country.
We know this is Joan. She has been doing this for two years now. And despite her saying she doesn’t read our blogs, there have been times that we have posted a blogpost, and days later, Joan writes on the Adoptee’s forum, or elsewhere on the web, and will actually use a phrase that we just used.
Now we have this Kay Peterson. A search of the IP address shows it coming from American Fork, Utah, zipcode 84003. Which is near Lehi, Utah. Could be genuine, could be that Joan used a proxy site. There’s just too many similarities in the way this person writes and the way Joan writes.
If the person is genuine, then she needs to learn real fast – THE WORLD DOESN’T CARE IF YOU’RE ADOPTED!
And we see again, how adoptees are always yelling and screaming UNDERSTAND US – WE’RE ADOPTED AND YOU PEOPLE DON’T UNDERSTAND US!!!!
Hey – you know what? THE WORLD DOESN’T CARE.
One question Kay, if you are genuine – why the hell should I care about understanding YOU – when you didn’t take the time to care and understand about ME? – Right away – you condemned me. You didn’t take the time to see that this blog is a chronicle of the many HURTFUL things that Joan has done to me and others. All you can say is “get over it.” – So I will say the same thing to you – “You’re adopted? GET OVER IT.”
another reason we are suspicious over the authenticity of this commentor. The email address – contains the numbers 333 – when Joan was a new member of the Adult Adoptees forum, she used an avatar that consisted of that number and the saying “I’m only Half-Evil.” (333 – half of 666). lol, no, Joan is ALL evil. Any person who sends a letter to her own blood sister telling her that her infertile fiance got the next door neighbor pregnant is nothing but evil.
Earlier this morning, in an email to Gert I said the following:
“but either way Gert – my answers will have infuriated her. What the hell did she expect? – she is like a moth to the flame – she WANTS us to insult her – it’s the only way she knows how to live. – to expect to be insulted and therefore she looks for opportunities to GET insulted. It was probably the only attention she got from those flakes that adopted her.”.
well like I said…I could be wrong…but that being said…I agree with Ruth here…I don’t care about ADOPTION…I have some experience with that, adopting my own son and I’ve experienced the PAIN of having Joan Wheeler interfere with that process and with my children.
Our concerns are NOT about adoption, period, our concerns are about the BEHAVIOR of Joan Wheeler, an adoptee and getting the truth out of what she did and wrote about. This is fair warning to anyone that gets in our way.
Call me a cold-hearted bitch if you want to…but my life is the MOST IMPORTANT THING IN MY LIFE. I can not and will not and should not be responsible for every feeling of every human on this planet. I choose where I shall give my attention and feelings and my focus is NOT ON THE FEELINGS OF ADOPTEES.
Is there any one out there that want to take on ALL OF MY FEELINGS AND PAIN AND PROBLEMS? …NO… I thought not!
If this Kay is for real then I suggest she gets off the internet and gets some real help with dealing with her life. I got the help I needed and so do millions of others…the simple fact is IT IS NOT MY CONCERN.
If this Kay is Joan in another mask…game over! Get lost!
3. Ruth –
right Gert –
I don’t know why we have to keep repeating ourselves – but here goes again –
THIS BLOG IS NOT ABOUT ADOPTION OR ADOPTEES. IT IS ABOUT THE CRAP THAT JOAN WHEELER HAS DONE TO US AND IS STILL DOING TO US.
YES, THE TOPIC OF ADOPTION DOES COME UP – BUT ONLY IN THE CONTEXT OF – WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT ADOPTEES’ FEELINGS! – WE ARE NOT HERE TO HEAL YOUR CONFUSIONS –
THE ONLY THING WE ARE DOING IS TAKING A LIE THAT JOAN WHEELER HAS SAID ABOUT US IN HER BOOK OR ON THE INTERNET AND TELLING THE TRUTH BEHIND THAT LIE.
IF YOU ARE AN ADOPTEE LOOKING FOR UNDERSTANDING OR HEALING – YOU AIN’T GONNA GET IT HERE! –
IF YOU ARE AN ADOPTEE LOOKING TO DUMP ON THOSE WHO ARE PRO-ADOPTION OR THOSE WHO “DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU” – GET OFF OUR BLOG – WE ARE NOT INTIMIDATED BY YOU OR OTHER BULLIES. — (caps for emphasis, not internet shouting. although I feel like shouting because these numbskulls just don’t get it. ) –
I HAVE SPENT ENOUGH TIME UNDERSTANDING ADOPTEES FEELINGS – I HAVE DONE MY PART 30 YEARS WHEN I WAS FIRST REUNITED WITH JOAN WHEELER, MY BIRTH SISTER WHO WAS GIVEN UP FOR ADOPTION. I HAVE READ ARTICLES – I HAVE RESEARCHED IT. I’M TIRED OF PEOPLE CONSTANTLY TELLING ME TO “UNDERSTAND” JOAN. PEOPLE – I DO UNDERSTAND JOAN – SHE IS A SICK INDIVIDUAL WHO NEEDS TO BE IN THE LOONY BIN.
Why don’t people READ before opening their mouths with comments – one Kay Peterson needs to learn to READ July 17, 2012Posted by Ruth in Announcements and updates, Joan Wheeler's abuse and harassment of her birth family, Uncategorized.
On July 17, 2012, this blog received the following comments on the page that says in it’s title to READ first before commening. (UH-DUH)
1. As an adopted child, I can attest to the frustration of adoption. You are the adult. You needed to be there with love for him. He is supposed to be your son but you obviously won’t love him of he’s bad. Should he be punished for his actions? Yes. Completely. But he should also be shown an example of love. And I don’t believe he learned it from you.
2. Okay, I’m sorry, one more thing, to the author of this blog, your blog is smothered in bigotry. I am a seventeen adopted girl and I have been emotionally abused by my “mother” my whole life. I tried to killmyself at six years old. My while life I’ve been told by my parenslts to suck it up. And not complain. I always thought I was weak for being so depressed, I have always felt guilty for not wishing to live. However, I am now finally seeking help, and am trying to tell myself I’m not a freak or a bad kid, and here someone who is supposed to be an adult is writing hurtful things about something she most clearly does not understand. You have generalized based on a bad experience. No, adopted children should not use “adopted child syndrome” as a cop out. But likewise, women with bad experiences with ONE crappy person who HAPPENS to be adopted should not right rude, illogical blogs about adopted people. Normally I am pretty okay with differing views, but you are being immature because you are just being mean be user of your hurt feelings! I am a productive citizen, I go to church, I am involved in a service club at my school, I am an artist, I love piano, and I’m adopted. Get over it and be more respectful of people’s feelings.
Okay, Kay, as the author of this blog, I am asking you and others to READ what I wrote on what YOU commented on.
I have not adopted ANYone, so no adopted child WOULD learn from me. – it was my oldest sister, who when she married her second husband, who wanted to adopt her son, had to go thru paperwork – in essence, she and her first husband had to sign relinquishment papers to give up her son for adoption, then she and her second husband signed papers to adopt together the 14 year old kid, who was always in her custody, and was raised very well by his birth/adoptive mom.
This blog is NOT about adoption. It is about the BEHAVIOR that one adoptee did to me and my family! That adoptee is Joan Wheeler, my birth sister who was relinquished to adoption and then reunited with us. Joan’s anti-social behavior consists of more than 30 years of harassment, lies, theft, stalking. She stole hundreds of dollars from me. Wrote letters to the mayor of my city and other elected officials giving them my medical history and other private details of my life. Called my job repeatedly for six months trying to get me fired. Wrote letters to my fiance trying to break us up. When that didn’t work, she wrote me a letter telling me that he got the next door neighbor pregnant.
What Joan Wheeler has done should have put her jail, but the courts are loathe to moderate “disagreements between family members.” I took her to court in 1995 and the judge dismissed it, saying “sisters should get along.” Joan did not stop – she wrote that letter about my fiance in 1999 and in 2009 published a slanderous book that contains many many lies, including saying that I have an arrest and criminal record, when I have none.
Joan blames all her anti-social behaviors on her adoption. Kay, you say adoption is frustrating? Well frustration does not give anyone the right to do these things that Joan has done.It is Joan and other warped adoptees that cling to the Adopted Child Syndrome as an EXCUSE for their bad and sometimes criminal acts.
If an alcoholic drinks a bottle of vodka, gets in a car, and kills someone, they canNOT use the excuse of their “disease” for that vehicular homocide. “I’m an alcoholic. I can’t help it. Feel sorry for me.” – so if an adoptee breaks the law – as Joan has – she can say “I’m adopted. I can’t help it. Feel sorry for me.” – NO- it doesn’t work like that.
On the Adult Adoptees Advocating for Change forum – recently – some of those “adults” were lamblasting actress Edie Falco because she was an adoptive mom. “Someone should soak a sock in gasoline, stick it her mouth and set it on fire,” is what one of them proposed as a solution to adoption. What kind of crazy nonsense is that? – crazy all right – that person should be locked up in the loony bin.
I know full well that not all adoptees engage in this kind of hate. I know a woman, who is the younger adopted sister of a friend. She was brutally raped and beaten at the age of 12. She grew up to be a fine woman, with a husband and children. She does not engage in the anti-social behaviors that Joan and other nuts like her do. C. has absolutely no problems with herself being adopted.
Kay, this blog is NOT about bigotry. Again – this blog is about the crap that JOAN WHEELER has done to me.
FOR THE RECORD: I am pro-adoption. And I am infertile. And THAT is why Joan Wheeler hates me. (well, one of the reasons). She also hates her entire birth family, her entire adoptive family, the Catholic Church, the government, the entire world – FOR HER ADOPTION. She blames her crappy life on EVERYONE. She will not take responsibility for her own actions! She is now 56 years old and STILL doing crap. For heavens sake, she was adopted 55 years ago – and I was only THREE YEARS OLD! I will be 60 years old in 3 weeks – how long must I be punished for JOAN’S ADOPTION – when I had nothing to do with it!!!??? I have always said that the actions done by Joan are caused by HER and her alone. I have NEVER blamed the instituion of adoption. I am however, disgusted that certain socio-paths try to excuse thier rotten behvior BECAUSE they were adopted – by laying that Adopted Child Syndrome on me and then never stop making my life a living hell!
And by the way, Kay, I AM respectful of others feelings. I was always respectful to Joan’s feelings until she stole from me, lied to me, tried to get me fired, tried to break me up with my fiance. And that was when I stood up to the bully and said – NO – YOU will now respect MY feelings.
Next time Kay, please read something before you shoot your mouth off. And before daring to lecture ME about my justifiable angry feelings from the abuse that I have suffered at the hands of an idiot who blames it all on the institution of adoption – you need to go lecture Joan and the so-called “adult” adoptees for giving adoptees a bad name.
And by the way, Joan also stuck her nose in my sister’s family – telling her she was wrong for the ‘adoption of her son – AND Joan then told the kids -ages 15 and 16 – NOT to listen to their mom. When my niece said she was going to run away – I told her to stay put – Joan told her to run. At the age of 16 that child listened to Joan and went missing for a full week before showing up on my doorstep – 400 miles from her home. Goddess knows what kind of danger that child was exposed to – because Joan told her that her mother was unfit, etc. etc. –
This is what this blog is all about – for people to learn and identify bullies and how to stand up to them. I don’t give a damn that Joan was adopted or not – she has bullied me and others for far too long. – and may I give you piece of advice Kay – that first phrase of your second comment: “I’m sorry.” What are you sorry about? NEVER prelude what you think with that phrase. It shows you are apologizing for what you think. If you have the courage to speak your mind – then don’t be apologetic for saying it. Be a Woman. – and by the way, if I seem a bit harsh in my comments to you – it’s because I’m irritated that you didn’t get the facts right before you commented. I am not angry with you at all. Just irritated. You had something to say and you said it. You stood up for adoptees – saying that not all of them are whacked like Joan. But don’t attack me for what I put forth in this blog. You can disagree with me – but if you want to tell me I’m wrong – you’d better have all the facts, and sweetie, you didn’t. Now eliminate that phrase “I’m sorry,” from your vocabulary. It makes one sound like a wishy-washy dishrag.
ps – Kay – Joan Wheeler – to this day – July 18, 2012 is STILL harassing me. And you, who are young enough to be my grandaughter are going to tell ME to suck it up? After YOUR amom has told YOU for years to suck it up? – oh, so only “adopted” persons get to have hurt feelings.
half evil – you overplayed yourself. 333 – I wasn’t born yesterday sweetie.
to see Gert’s thoughts on this and another comment by me click here.
Brian T. Maloney abuses someone who HONORED his father, Arthur J. Maloney – because Joan Wheeler told him to. July 8, 2012Posted by Ruth in Joan Wheeler's abuse and harassment of her birth family.
keep informed of the new attacks upon the birth siblings and family by Brian Maloney of Williamsville ny
these posts on gert’s blog
- the dangers of writing shit about someone if you don’t know them – a lesson to be learned by Brian T. Maloney on July 7, 2012
- Ruth admits to a big oopsey! on July 7, 2012
Keep up on fast breaking news… July 6, 2012Posted by gertmcqueen in Uncategorized.
Tags: brian maloney, champ the defender, Joan Wheeler
see these posts on Gert’s blog…
new development we know who he is July 5, 2012Posted by gertmcqueen in Uncategorized.
Tags: brian maloney abuse, champ joanwheeler's defender, liars
yep I found him and we are just beginning to find out more about him and expose him