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great post by Gert – Joan’s latest views on her miserable life and why do adoptees cut off contact November 29, 2012

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Please see Gert’s most excellant blog post, “Joan Wheeler/legitimate bastard gives us her views on ‘why do adoptees cut off contact???????’”

I also left a great comment on it. – on why people cut off contact with HER.

November 28, 2012

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Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

Even some fellow adoptees have seen the REAL Joan behind that mask…read on!

Oh and her views are very telling. First we shall Joan’s words and then I shall comment on them.

BUT FIRST AN UPDATE, FEBRUARY 2016, as older posts are being seen I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler says about me and family. After the first book was pulled from publication by the publisher, May 2011, she has ‘self-published’ another ‘revised’ version. In this ‘version’ called ‘duped by adoption’ she has increased her exploitation by including PICTURES and REAL NAMES and much more personal information violating again the families. Joan has no decency NOR shame. There is NOTHING in this book for adoption reform. She is totally against adoption and her two families. To learn more see…

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

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People who put out too much personal information on the public internet and then bitch when people see it – dey be LOSERS! November 24, 2012

Posted by Ruth in Announcements and updates, Having Fun with Disfunctionality.
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be sure to read to the bottom of this post, as I caught Heather/Without Origin in a big fat lie. – Liars – they are useless humans beings.

addendum – November 28, 2012 – oh my gosh! how silly. Ok – this whole thing got started because “someone” using a screen name of “Without Origin” left a review of Joan Wheeler’s libelous book on amazon.com’s UK site. Gert left a rebuttal review and Without Origin accused Gert of stalking her. She did this accusation on the UK site and then because we published the url addresses of our blogs, Without Origin came over here to our blogs and left  a couple of messages. When she left those comments, she used an email address that said HeatherHolmes and the IP address came from the UK. Now when Joan’s book first came out in November 2009, a review by someone called HeatherUK was published on amazon.com’s United States site. On both reviews, three years apart, HeatherUK and Without Origin both say they were born in the US, but raised in the UK. When I addressed Without Origin as Heather, she wrote another comment saying we didn’t have her real name. – lol – I then googled HeatherUK and Heather Holmes and found that they are the same person. This is the lie that I caught Heather in. I exposed that lie on Sunday afternoon, November 25. Today, Wednesday, I wander over to the amazon.UK site and see that Without Origin amended her screen name – it now reads: “HeatherUK – without origin.”

By backtracking and adding her REAL name of HEATHER, she admits that she LIED in her comment to this blog when she said that when I called her HEATHER – I didn’t have her real name.

Just wanted to add that last bit of silliness to this whole silly affair. Silly people – they’re everywhere. And as the first Duke of Marlborough – Sir John Winston, ancestor of Winston Churchill (and builder of Blenham Palace) was fond of saying (300 years ago) – “silly, silly.” – Yes he was fond of saying that – we have the numerous letters that he and his wife Sarah wrote to each other. He was fond of laughing at silly people, and so am I. — Silly, silly.

In the discussion thread on amazon.uk Without origin started ranting and raving, accusing us, Gert in particular, of STALKING her. She then came back numerous times to post drama. One thing she let out was that her daughter’s school was in  lockdown. – Which had WHAT  to do with discussing Joan Wheeler’s book? So I wrote a blog post:  The internet, social media and Twitter newsfeed and people getting all bent out of shape over nothing. geez!   and said the following: someone this morning accused Gert and me of stalking her twitter account. We responded to a post she made. (not on Twitter). She used a screen name. We don’t know her real name. Gert said the other day, she THINKS she knows who the person is. But suspecting someone’s real name and actually knowing it are two different things.   This person then started ranting that her daughter’s school was in lock-down. WELL  I was sleeping this morning, went to bed at 8:10 am, after working 12 hours overnight. I woke up a little after 12 noon. Sorry, I had nothing to do with her daughter’s school being locked down. – I was busy snoring away!  —  I didn’t really read this person’s comments, just heard about it via email when I woke up. I’m not sure if this person thinks I did something to cause her child’s school to be locked down or was she just getting carried away with her keyboard. – There was just too much DRAMA there for me – especially since I had just woken up after only 4 hours sleep.  And because there’s too much DRAMA and stuff that doesn’t concern me – I’m not even going to read all that stuff. Anyway, if she wasn’t accusing me or Gert of causing the lockdown – WHY IS SHE WRITING ABOUT IT? Especially in a post wherein she accuses us of stalking her!   I’m not interested in this person’s daughter’s school, nor is Gert. We were not talking about this person’s daughter OR her school – we were talking about the lies contained in Joan Wheeler’s book!   I don’t know this person, as of this morning, I didn’t know she HAD a daughter, didn’t know she was school-aged, didn’t know her school was in lockdown. – I was not talking about her daughter. SO WHY DID THIS PERSON TELL ME ABOUT HER DAUGHTER AND HER SCHOOL? It had NOTHING to do with the topic at hand: the lies about me contained in Joan Wheeler’s book.   geez! some people! Think they are twitter cops, divulge personal information about their daughter, and themeselves and get their knickers in a knot because people are reading what they wrote. If that person didn’t want me to know they have a daughter, she sure did a good job keeping that information away from me. IF YA DIDN’T WANT ME TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER YA SHOULD’VE KEPT YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

so what does this idiot do TODAY? She writes this shit in a comment and GAVE OUT HER EMAIL ADDY WITH HER REAL NAME: Gert didn’t appear on twitter by chance, she actively ‘followed’ which is not by chance. I don’t know what she was looking for but hey, if you want to know when the kids’s school xmas fair is or that soccer practice is cancelled . . . v.strange behavior from someone who simpy didn’t like my book review.

lol – lol lol Heather, sweetie, I’m not interested in when the school xmas fair is – I’m not coming to England to see it, I don’t even have a passport. And I’m not going to spend 100 bucks for one. – Heather, YOU simply are not worth it. YOU are not interesting. YOU are not worth OUR time.

And no – it wasn’t your book review we didn’t like, it was THE BOOK! And since you placed a review of it on amazon’s United States site in December 2009, and again two years later – under a different name – you most certainly ARE Joan’s flunkie. “oh Joan, I wish I’d heard of you sooner – I stayed up all night to read this book.” yeah right – you read over 600 pages in one night! unless you skimmed thru it and DIDN’T CATCH THE CONTRADICTIONS THAT I POINTED OUT TO YOU ON PAGE 302. “I kept hoping things would turn out all right.” Really? You really read that trashy hate-filled book and thought things would turn out all right between Joan and her birth family – when every other page Joan is professing her HATE towards us?

For three years now, I’ve been wondering what kind of delusional person wrote that kind of stuff on a book review. Now I know. A delusional person who accuses people of doing things they haven’t done. Runs her mouth (fingers on keyboard) without thinking, goes off on wild tangents, accuses people of stalking her, yet gives out personal information to those very same people she accuses of stalking her.

What a dipshit!

Honey, chill – go make yourself a pot of tea and go figure out what shit you just did to yourself. And no – we don’t really care – because YOU SIMPLY ARE NOT INTERESTING. YOU SHOWED US YOU ARE NOT WORTH KNOWING.

As for stalking – my, my, my! The statistics of both my blog and Gert’s blog are showing many many hits from United Kingdom from yesterday and today.  – thank you HeatherUK/Without Origin – you’re pushing our blogs up there in the ranks! By all means, keep “stalking” us – we don’t mind. That’s why our blogs are here – to be read! – so interesting. I wrote and posted this blog at 2:30 pm. I checked our stats at 12:30pm – 20 hits from United Kingdom, my post where Heather/Without Origin commented on had 10 hits. – checking just now – the hits from United Kingdom went up 4 points, the hits of the home page went up by 2 and the post where she commented on went up an additional 2. – This means she went to the home page twice, then clicked on my post looking for her comment twice, making the overall stats from the UK go up by a total of 4. So, who is stalking whom? Stalk, stalk, stalk, Whatcha looking for Heather? your comment? WHY are you so interested in US? WHY are we that important to you? WHY are so interested in what we are doing on our blog? Hey, I don’t care – read all want – but don’t be a hypocrite – which is what you are – because YOU are doing the very same thing YOU accused US of doing. – oh and Gert’s blog – 23 hits from United Kingdom. – stalk, stalk stalk.

And come visit me on facebook – the link is right there on my home page – have a nice day sweetie!

ADDENDUM: 7:00pm

ha ha I knew HeatherUK/Without Origin would be back. She left the following three comments. And true to form with these types of bullies, she if following DARVO to a T. DARVO – Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim-Offender.

Comment 1:YOU simply are not worth it. YOU are not interesting. YOU are not worth OUR time.”  That’s fantastic news so you’ll be ceasing with these histrionics now? I chose to review a book, and responded to your inappropriate actions and rantings

Comment 2: “yeah right – you read over 600 pages in one night!”.  NO. You mis-quote. I actually said  ‘I’m staying awake until 2am EACH night’ <<<not in ONE night  I did not know Joan Wheeler and CHOSE to email her. No Flunkie, soz

Comment 3: GAVE OUT HER EMAIL ADDY WITH HER REAL NAME  *Not my real name, actually*  I am not the one causing ‘Drama’ You’re a nutter!  1. I sent one email to the author, which she chose to use in editorial review  2. I also chose to leave a book review this year.  That does not constitute ‘Drama’ the dramatics are all your own

My response to this clear-cut case of a bully:

1. histrionics? Drama? Heather put out post after post on the discussion thread. WE were talking about the book. Heather brought her daughter and the lockdown at her daughter’s school. Why? I don’t know. Then today starts rambling about the school’s xmas fair and soccer practice. Why? talk about histrionics.

2. I responded to the book review by pointing out that the book was full of lies. The book was pulled from publication and I said WHY the book was pulled. Any book review of a book that is no longer in print should be accompanied with the announcement that it was pulled from publication and the reasons why it was pulled.

3. yes, I did mis-quote you. sorry, I’m only human. But we have your admission “I actually said…” so you have been caught in the act of reviewing the same book twice, using two different screen-names – this is misrepresentation.

4.Sounds like you’re a flunkie no matter how you whitewash it.

5. not your real name. okay fine, so maybe Heather is not your real name – maybe your real name is Abigail, or Elizabeth, or Bessie. The point is – you got your email listed as heather.holmes @ blahblah dot com. Are you Katie Holmes, recently divorced from Tom Cruise? or do you always make up fake emails? Whatever. I don’t care what your name is. And if we don’t know your name, how are we stalking you? You are not making any sense.

6. The drama is all on you – because you can’t keep to the subject: THE BOOK. What does your daughter, her school, the xmas fair or soccer practice have to do with the book, your reviewS, our reviews? NOTHING – ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

7. IN A FOURTH COMMENT (talk about stalking) this nutter sideswipes my charge of her actively coming to our blog by saying we plastered the url addy. Yes, we did publish it. HOWEVER, nobody FORCED this nutter to actively copy and paste the url addy (it did not get published as a clickable link) – so she ACTIVELY and PURPOSEFULLY CHOSE – of her own volition and free will – to come to our blogs. DARVO again!

Since you have nothing inteligent to say, your comments, your name, are being marked as spam and wordpress will now automatically put them where they rightly belong: in the trash.

1. Ruth

holy shit! in the 4 minutes that it took me to add the paragraph about the blog stats showing 24 hits from United Kingdom – it went up to 25. Heather is really really stalking us – 25 hits from this morning. stalk stalk stalk stalk stalk stalk don’t you have something better to do with your time Heather? like taking care of your kids? but like a moth to the flame, you keep coming to my blog and stalk me. roflmao!

 2. gertmcqueen

Since Ruth wrote this post I am NOT going to approve the current comments in waiting. But I do find it very interesting that this adoptee in UK read a book, wrote a review via email to the author and then wrote a second review years later.

When the author got the first review she included it on the author’s boiler-plate where the author placed another’s boiler-plate…those things are to improve the sales of a book…and then the author also included the boiler-plates that were on the physical book. This adoptee was USED by the author. And then the adoptee decided to write another review. Okay great, but in this case…adoption reform…NOT KNOWING THAT THE BOOK WAS LIBELOUS AND PULLED FROM PUBLICATION is no excuse. The has been dead since May 2011 If adoptees anywhere don’t know about it, I suggest they do their homework and find out about the book in question BEFORE WRITING A REVIEW.

That is WHAT CAUSED us to take action…because regardless of what Amazaon says…the book is dead!

Now I have said to this adoptee, on my own post, I believe it’s time for her to bow out of this…you have NOTHING to gain by continuing commenting to us…

We birth siblings will continue to expose Joan Wheeler and her libelous book and any other dirty deeds and words she has said…and it would be wise for EVERYONE to get the hell out of our way.

I replied to this adoptee’s review by saying that the book garbage and she replied by because she didn’t like my words. I then said, I stand by my position and review and THAT is what this adoptee SHOULD HAVE SAID AND BE GONE…now…be gone.

 3. Ruth

I have deleted the nutter’s comments and addressed them within the above blog post. Since she has nothing intelligent to say, I will say it for her: GOODBYE.

OMYGAWD! – TALK ABOUT STALKING! – As of this minute, 8:31pm, this blog has had a total of 97 hits. 68 – that’s SIXY-EIGHT from United Kingdom alone! 21 hits from the US, 4 from Canada, and 1 from Australia.

Geez, who is STALKING us from United Kingdom, just trying to splatter us with more comments. I don’t know the exact count from yesterday at the amazon site, but I placed about 3 comments, Gert about 3 comments – the rest – TWO PAGES of MULTIPLE comments were done by this HeatherUK/Without Origin! comment after comment after comment after comment after comment. And now she’s doing it here. – except I stopped her in her tracks. Talk about ranting and raving and histrionics! I feel sorry for her kids – She obviously has her priorities and her kids ain’t one of them. Her IMPORTANT thing for today is  posting comment after comment after comment after comment on my blog and coming back to my blog all day long today (I’ve been checking the stats, and every few hours, the stats keep going up). What a nutter!

10:00pm and two more hits from her. omg,  those poor kids of hers, mommy ain’t paying no attention to them for two days. For two days, all mommy can think of is going to Ruth and Gert’s blogs to see them. oh poor poor HeatherUK/without origin, she is without original thought. can only think of stalking Ruth’s blog. Poor baby, has no friends. no love-life, cos if it’s 10pm here, it’s 3am in the United Kingdom. And she’s been coming to my blog for hours and hours! roflmao!

I just received this in my private email:

I am contacting you in assistance of transferring a sum of US$1,600,000.00 into your private account from my “Bank of England” to your personal account for safe keeping. For more information contact me back immediately via my private email. Details as regards to these funds will be fully explained to you in a confidential manner. Email Contact:  darwifreeman@ Regards Mr. Darwin Freeman – roflmao! I love this nutty people – delusional nutballs. Mr. Freeman, since you live in England, you need to go find HeatherUK/without origin – she’s very lonely tonight. –
This whole thing – with this email and the broad stalking me is funnier than The Kids in the Hall!
Kids in the Hall – a comedy troupe from Toronto Canada had their own TV show on HBO in the 80’s – 90’s. Scott Thompson, Dave Foley, Mark Mckinney, Bruce McCullough, and Kevin McDonald.
here is one their “extreme” skits: extreme because everything is in the extreme, superlatives, – just the way Joan Wheeler looks at and describes everything in her life, and we how Heather/without origin blows things up too! – enjoy.
Sunday morning: and this is the last I will discuss this clearly delusional Without Origin person. She accused us of stalking her – no, we didn’t. But I googled her this morning. She can call it stalking, I don’t care – I wanted to get to the bottom of it. She claims that “Heather” is not her real name. – her email address on the comments she left on this blog says heather.holmes @ blah blah dot com – She admits that the original review credited to her name (HeatherUK) was hers. She is an adoptee, born in New York State and raised in england. Google shows a Heather Holmes in an adoption registry (looking for info) as being born in Syracuse NY. And she used the same exact email addy as she did when she submitted her multiple comments to this blog. Another google entry takes me to this:

Adoptee activists protest for birth-record access

July 22, 2009|By Jeff Gammage INQUIRER STAFF WRITER

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Adoptee activists protest for birth-record access

July 22, 2009|By Jeff Gammage INQUIRER STAFF WRITER

None of those groups were present yesterday – nor did they need to be. They’re winning the argument, noted adoptee Dan Haines of Egg Harbor. That forces adoptees to mount a state-by-state appeal to lawmakers that could go on forever.

And while that happens, he said, birth parents grow old and die.

That fact lends urgency to what adoptees call the nation’s last civil-rights battle.

“There’s no sane reason for us not to have the information,” said Heather Holmes, an adoptee who was born in New York and raised in England.

So Heather, we DO have your real name – stop trying to LIE. And no, you don’t have to worry about it – you’re not being stalked. I did say yesterday that you are not that interesting to us. And I stand by that. It’s just that my intuition told me you are a liar – and I just caught you in a lie. You forgot that what you put out on the internet STAYS on the internet – even 3 years down the line.

Heather may be trying to pull a fast one, seeing as she was adopted, and their names get changed, Heather Holmes is her REAL original birth name, as that is what she registered in the adoption registry under.  Her legal adopted name is different. And we do not know that name. And we don’t care what it is. These playing games and lying just shows us and everybody else what a nutter she is.

And now Heather, now that I got you dead to rights – you can go. You are dismissed.

Look what happens when you LIKE anything that Joan Wheeler has said, written, or done; just another causality caught in the middle! November 24, 2012

Posted by gertmcqueen in Uncategorized.
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withoutorigin is the screen name of a book reviewer of Joan Wheeler’s libelous book, my comment to her review was not to her liking. On a ‘discussion’ thread about the CONTENTS of the book reviewed, this person accused me of stalking her; hence Ruth’s post about internet/twitter.

The discussion was pulled, apparently by the site, yesterday and that was that. WRONG.

Withoutorigin then left this comment on Ruth’s blog post, 

today and I am giving withoutorigin’s comment  a whole post all by itself.

Gert didn’t appear on twitter by chance, she actively ‘followed’ which is not by chance. I don’t know what she was looking for but hey, if you want to know when the kids’s school xmas fair is or that soccer practice is cancelled . . . v.strange behavior from someone who simpy didn’t like my book review.

Gert’s answer is…

Okay withoutorigin…look…if you DIDN’T WANT ME TO KNOW WHO YOU WERE, WHY, OH WHY, LEAVE ME A COMMENT ON THE BLOG WITH YOUR NAME AND EMAIL? VERY STRANGE BEHAVIOR HERE!

I FOLLOW lots of people on twitter and on blogs…yes that is an ACTIVE ACTIVITY. I have lots of adoptees on my follow list as well as on my follower list. I also have lots of anti and pro adoption people on my list…what the hell is the big deal..You can fix the problem by just blocking me…You are gravely mistaken that I am following you, or stalking you or want to know anything about you, your family or anything. If you haven’t gotten the message yet…I don’t give a damm about you or your family, I am NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING…I am on twitter because I want to be just like everyone else is.

I have looked and looked over my twitter and I can’t see where YOU are there…perhaps I’m blind…again…block me if you don’t want me around regarding the book review…

GET THIS STRAIGHT…I SUSPECTED who wrote the review but did not provide a name BECAUSE I WAS NOT SURE..BUT it was YOU AND ONLY YOU who just confirmed it! You wrote one review already and I wondered why you would write another one, just after Joan Wheeler saw what we DID to her books in December 2011…we ripped up and shredded and burned them. And in January 2012 your 2nd review appeared. Funny thing is I did not see it until just recently 11 months later.

You were the one who didn’t like the fact that your review was challenged, on a discussion thread, and you kept coming back for more, on a discussion ABOUT THE CONTENTS of the book BUT you refused to discuss the contents of the book!

I said I was sorry if you were insulted, but you STILL came back accusing me of stalking you…this is paranoid behavior. Please do not comment again I don’t care a thing about you and I still don’t know where you or your kids school is on twitter…and furthermore I don’t give a dammn.

Ruth

well gee, Heather, you say “Gert didn’t appear on twitter by chance, she actively ‘followed’ which is not by chance.” – well, shit, Heather, YOU didn’t appear on my blog by chance, YOU actively “followed” the link to my blog AND actively left a comment.

a little like the kettle calling the pot black don’t ya think?

and I got news for you Heather NOBODY appears on twitter by chance – not even YOU – YOU had to fill out a registration thingy didn’t you? Or did one of Santa’s elves do that for you? grow up sweetie.

4. withoutorigin – November 24, 2012[Edit]

“a little like the kettle calling the pot black don’t ya think?” No.  Because you plastered the blog addresses all over Amazon urging people to read them

5. gertmcqueenNovember 24, 2012[Edit]

If you have not read the purpose of our blogs I suggest that you do so for their purpose is to expose Joan Wheeler, where ever that takes us. It is too bad that you got got in the crosshairs, but, you really did not get out of the way when you had the chance. I replied to your review, you took offense to that AND I replied saying that I stand by my position and review. It was you who proceeded to argue. And yes, we do plaster our blog addresses all over the INTERNET because the book is libelous, and people like yourself, need to know how danger the author is. If you can’t see that I can’t help that. Many have been burnt because they have refused to understand what we the birthsiblings have said.

Now I really do think that you ought to let this go…there is NOTHING in it for you, you got caught in the crosshairs, you got used by Joan, bow out now.

5. gertmcqueenNovember 25, 2012[Edit]

Gert here… I would like to present an perfect example of how I showed up on other people’s twitter accounts…without my knowledge….if I didn’t get a email alert

Just tonight I posted on my blog that I made a milestone…10 followers, on my blog…I tweeted it!

by the time I got to twitter I got a email message that my tweet was retweeter…I ONLY GET EMAIL ALERTS FROM THOSE THAT I FOLLOW…

gert mcqueen‏@gertmcqueen a new milestone…thanks! http://wp.me/p1J3K6-DL  via @wordpressdotcom Retweeted by Life As An Adoptee

I follow ‘life as an adoptee’ she retweeted my tweet, it showed up on her twitter feed…I know cause I looked. Her retweet did NOT show up on my feed.

Any number of people can see my feed and retweet anything I tweet, I have NO CONTROL OVER THAT.

So much for the controversy I was stalking miss withoutorigin/heather because according to her was LOOKING FOR SOMETHING and/or about her kids school lifes.

Be this a lesson…get ALL YOUR FACTS before you accuse someone and know when to back away when you are over your head.

6. Ruth

please see my post: People who put out too much personal information on the public internet and then bitch when people see it – dey be LOSERS!

for the FULL story of Heather/Without Origin and her STALKING me and Gert – 68 visits to my blog and over 30 to Gert’s blog. And she left FOUR comments. (On the discussion thread at amazon uk, she left two pages of comments).

Gert and I were discussing the fact that Joan Wheeler’s book was pulled from publication and why – the contents of the book. Heather brought up her daughter, her daughter’s school, the school’s xmas fair and soccer practice – which had WHAT to do with the book, Heather’s reviews of the book or our rebuttal-reviews? Gert and I stuck to the subject, while Heather went off the deep end, ranting and raving, accusing us of stalking her, and then proceeded to give us information about her children. Unbelievable! Such DRAMA!

On Thursday night/Friday November 22-23, I went to the amazon uk site perhaps a total of 4 times. And while Heather was accusing Gert and me of stalking her, Heather came to my blog over 40 times on Friday, November 23, and 68 times on Saturday, November 24. Who is stalking whom?

And she got caught in a lie – when she left comments on my blog, she left her name of Heather Holmes and when I pointed that out to her, she said that was not her name. On a google search on Sunday morning, I found an old post on adoptees from 2009 that referenced Heather Holmes, an adoptee born in New York and raised in England. And this is what we have known about HeatherUK from December 2009 when she left her first review of Joan’s book on the amazon united states site. And I found that she registered with a adoption search registry for Syracuse, New York AS Heather Holmes, using THE VERY SAME EMAIL SHE USED TO POST COMMENTS ON MY BLOG.

VERY strange behavior!

7. Ruth

oh and by the way: Joan’s own review of her own book says “This is a work of non-fiction; the events are entirely true. Nothing is imagined or fabricated.” and says that the picture on the back of the book was approved by a literary lawyer because the faces were blurred – HA! I submitted actual court documents to Trafford Publications, the publisher of the book that proved without a doubt that Joan LIED in the book (the events are entirely true – HA!) – and I pointed out to Trafford that Joan violated a term in the contract that she had with Trafford – that she was the sole copyright holder of the book and ALL of it’s contents. I spoke personally with Eugene Hopkins of the publishing firm and said “that picture was taken in 1955 or earlier, BEFORE Joan was born, MANY copies of it were distributed to MANY family members, my paternal grandmother was the photographer, it is of ME and MY family, Joan is not in it.” Mr. Hopkins then said to me on the phone, “that picture should not have been published.”

Joan Wheeler is a liar, IF a literary lawyer told her the picture could be used, she LIED to him as to any circumstances regarding the picture.

IF there were no lies contained in the book – the book would still be availbable for print – as it is not – stop and ask yourself the questions WHY? The answer: Joan Wheeler is a liar and actual City of Buffalo court documents – posted to this blog – prove that she lied.

The internet, social media and Twitter newsfeed and people getting all bent out of shape over nothing. geez! November 23, 2012

Posted by Ruth in Announcements and updates, Lessons in Life.
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Social media sites are a wonderful way for people to stay in touch with each other. You got a cousin or old school friend who lives thousands of miles away? – You can stay in touch via facebook, twitter and other sites. You like a certain celebrity? Become “friends” with them on facebook or follow them on Twitter. It’s like the ultimate fan-groupie high!

I am a multi-faceted person with many interests and am passionate about them. I like belly dancing, art, writing. I like learning about herbs and natural healing. I like learning about crystals. I like science-fiction and fantasy and have studied metaphysics for 44 years. I learned all about paranormal investigating (ghost hunting) way back in 1982 – 32 years before Jason Hawes and Grant Wilson got on Sci-Fi channel with their popular “Ghost Hunters” series. I’ve had several paranormal experiences in the 1970’s and 1980’s and into the early 90’s. Since September 2010, I’ve been involved in a local “ghost hunting” group.

I have about 150 friends on my facebook and I follow 120 people on twitter. I also have 13 followers on twitter. On both my facebook and twitter, I have several of the cast members of the following TV paranormal shows: Ghost Hunters, Ghost Hunters International, Ghost Adventurers. As a long time Star Trek fan, I also have several of the actors, a couple of the writers and producers of Star Trek on both my facebook and twitter. I have other celebrities as well, including Lucy Lawless (Xena), Kevin Sorbo (Hercules), Gary Graham (Alien Nation and Star Trek Enterprise) and Mark Hamill – Luke Skywalker of Star Wars.

I also follow some singers: k.d. lang, Barry Gibb, Peter Tork on facebook. On my blog account, I follow the blog of Sam (Samantha) Sorbo, Kevin’s wife.

Do I communicate with all these people? Yes. Some of the celebrities are there because they are celebrities. (uh, duh!) And in my communicating with some, I have become “pen-pals” with them. One actor, who is an Orchard Park New York (a suburb of Buffalo) native, was on Star Trek Deep Space Nine and other movies, is my fb buddy because I took care of his father when he was a patient of mine where I worked.

One of the cast members of Ghost Hunters is a rabid Buffalo Bills and science fiction fan. Brian and I have had many conversations in the past 4 years. And thru him, I have become a buddy of his wife (now ex) Michelle. Michelle and I have also had many conversations in the past 4 years.

Now many of these people have an extensive fan-base. William Shatner, Capt. Kirk of Star Trek has a LOT of fans. George Takei, Sulu of Star Trek just posted on facebook that he has three million fans on fb and twitter. – That’s a lot of tweets and fb messages!

Facebook and Twitter has a function called “newsfeed” that shows YOU what your buddies have been up to.

I’m going to use Twitter as an example. Let’s say I tweet to William Shatner. Then an hour later my sister Gert gets on twitter. She will see what I tweeted to Capt. Kirk. If Shat responds to me, Gert will see his tweet. On the converse, because I follow Mark Hamill, I was able to see his daughter Chelsea’s tweet to him to have a Happy Thanksgiving. AND if I tweet to Mark Hamill, MY tweet will show up on CHELSEA’S newsfeed.

I don’t know Chelsea. Never met her. Never heard of her. Mark pretty much keeps his family private. I do remember back in he 80’s reading an article in Starlog magazine that as a father, he got a kick out of seeing his own 4 year old son playing with an action figure of himself (as Luke Skywalker).

So, am I “stalking” Chelsea if her tweets show up on my newsfeed? Hell no. I can’t control how twitter or facebook works. I have a twitter buddy that I follow – Daniel. Daniel is an adoptee who has interesting things to say. He must think I have interesting things to say because he follows me. Daniel’s tweets to others show up on my newsfeed. I don’t recognize the names of those he’s tweeting to. I don’t know if they are adoptees or others that he converses with. Am I stalking them? NO – they are showing up on my newsfeed thru no control of mine. I may skim thru them. And may join in the conversation. – that’s how Brian Harnois’ wife Michelle became my buddy.

That is how these social media sites work. I have a conversation with someone, someone else sees it, posts to the conversation. If that person and I hit it off, we become “friends” – or we don’t.

And let’s not forget that this is all PUBLIC. What you write on the internet is seen by not just a few people – but MILLIONS of people. It isn’t called the World Wide Web (www) for nothing! If you don’t want your private business to be read by someone, THEN DON’T WRITE ABOUT IT!

Case in point: someone this morning accused Gert and me of stalking her twitter account. We responded to a post she made. (not on Twitter). She used a screen name. We don’t know her real name. Gert said the other day, she THINKS she knows who the person is. But suspecting someone’s real name and actually knowing it are two different things.

This person then started ranting that her daughter’s school was in lock-down. WELL  I was sleeping this morning, went to bed at 8:10 am, after working 12 hours overnight. I woke up a little after 12 noon. Sorry, I had nothing to do with her daughter’s school being locked down. – I was busy snoring away!  —  I didn’t really read this person’s comments, just heard about it via email when I woke up. I’m not sure if this person thinks I did something to cause her child’s school to be locked down or was she just getting carried away with her keyboard. – There was just too much DRAMA there for me – especially since I had just woken up after only 4 hours sleep.  And because there’s too much DRAMA and stuff that doesn’t concern me – I’m not even going to read all that stuff. Anyway, if she wasn’t accusing me or Gert of causing the lockdown – WHY IS SHE WRITING ABOUT IT? Especially in a post wherein she accuses us of stalking her!

I’m not interested in this person’s daughter’s school, nor is Gert. We were not talking about this person’s daughter OR her school – we were talking about the lies contained in Joan Wheeler’s book!

I don’t know this person, as of this morning, I didn’t know she HAD a daughter, didn’t know she was school-aged, didn’t know her school was in lockdown. – I was not talking about her daughter. SO WHY DID THIS PERSON TELL ME ABOUT HER DAUGHTER AND HER SCHOOL? It had NOTHING to do with the topic at hand: the lies about me contained in Joan Wheeler’s book.

geez! some people! Think they are twitter cops, divulge personal information about their daughter, and themeselves and get their knickers in a knot because people are reading what they wrote. If that person didn’t want me to know they have a daughter, she sure did a good job keeping that information away from me. IF YA DIDN’T WANT ME TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER YA SHOULD’VE KEPT YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

roflamo!

1. Ruth

I see by my statistics here that my link to the Drama button has been accessed. Good – hope you liked that little ditty to accompnay your drama. sigh, honey, chill out, don’t stroke out.

1. Paula

Now I know someone accused you of stalking her AND she has a daughter. I must be stalker her stalking you stalking her. Hehe!

3. Ruth

Drama button: http://www.dramabutton.com/

5. withoutorigin – November 24, 2012 [Edit]

Gert didn’t appear on twitter by chance, she actively ‘followed’ which is not by chance. I don’t know what she was looking for but hey, if you want to know when the kids’s school xmas fair is or that soccer practice is cancelled . . . v.strange behavior from someone who simpy didn’t like my book review.

 

Gert here…update…Nov 26…I made a whole new post in answer to this last comment…

please see this post for further updates….

 

November 23, 2012

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a revisited and reworked book post

Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

Well, we have been showing the answers to these questions, and many more, as we refute her lies, unravel her nonsense and reclaim our rights, dignity, honor, on the personal and family levels.  And if we have to repeat them we shall!

It never ceases to amaze me how many times, in so many ways, and with this friend or that friend, how Joan Wheeler continues to believe in her own bullshit! As recently as January 2012, Joan had another friend write a review, of the libelous book, that was pulled from publication, by the publisher in May of 2011. Like that is going to generate sales for a book that no longer exists or that it will ‘help’ Joan the Crusader.

Don’t these people realize that they are making fools of themselves by promoting a libelous book and a writer that lies and in the rights and ‘dignity’ of the author!…

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November 20, 2012

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In other words they have, just to mention a few:

the personal belief that only they can make the world over into their imagine; little god complex

they have an over-abundance of  and a misplaced self-love; no one else matters, except what they want

the belief that the world will benefit from their words, deeds and most importantly…

what they have done in the name of a social cause takes them above the limits of human nature and laws of decency

Like everyone else, I know next to nothing about Petraeus, BUT, I certainly do know a lot about Joan!

There is a sexual seductiveness of being in the spot-light, no matter how small the ‘stage’. Fans and followers and being in the right clubs are wonderful things. Nothing grabs at us like the attention that one receives from a fan. Problem is that tends to create a monster…you start…

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November 18, 2012

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Early in the week of November 12, 2012 I happened upon this on google….

update Nov 26, 2012 if you google forbidden family joan wheeler directly you will find the book listed on amazon, US and UK…the link below doesn’t work

Forbidden Family: A Half-Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption …

www.amazon.co.uk › Books ›Health, Family & LifestyleForbidden Family: A Half-Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism: Amazon.co.uk: Joan Wheeler: Books. … 5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing Freedom Fighter 25 Jan 2012 … My blog is not hateful – it is the truth. … or a “scholarly” work on adoption reform – the author goes out of her way to trash everyone in

Imagine my surprise!

First let’s examine this bit of information that is presented on a google search. It looks as if there was ANOTHER review of this book, Jan 2012 with a 5 star rating!…

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Nov 11, 2012 new info added to Gert’s post, re: Oct 29, 2012 attack by Brian T. Maloney – November 11, 2012

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http://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/i-knew-that-brian-maloney-would-come-through-he-just-cant-help-himself-being-joan-wheelers-defender-and-all/

I added some new info in a comment to Gert’s post about finding the latest attack of Brian T. Maloney against us on his blog – the one he wrote on Oct. 29, 2012, but hid in an old post.

He thinks he is so clever.

http://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/just-in-case-brian-champ-thomas-maloney-tries-to-deny-who-he-is/

Just in case Brian Champ Thomas Maloney tries to deny who he is. http://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/i-knew-that-brian-maloney-would-come-through-he-just-cant-help-himself-being-joan-wheelers-defender-and-all/

I added some new info in a comment to Gert’s post about finding the latest attack of Brian T. Maloney against us on his blog – the one he wrote on Oct. 29, 2012, but hid in an old post.

He thinks he is so clever.

I also added it to this old post:

Just in case Brian Champ Thomas Maloney tries to deny who he is.

November 10, 2012

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always worth remembering the real Joan

Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

 Joan Wheeler, aka 1adoptee, speaks, from experience, about improving ones quality of life.
 
The language that adoptees use is, well, somewhat strange. I really don’t know, nor care, about what is meant, in the following discussion, by LDA. From context it appears to mean, perhaps, late day adoptee, but that’s only a guess. They seem to use it for when someone found out they were adopted later in life, as an adult versus as a child. Actually the meaning doesn’t mean much here anyway. The issue is how Joan sees her life and how that affects everything she has done and continues to do. It colors the very fabric of why NO ONE can reason with her about anything because she is the adoptee….who has suffered and who likes her suffering and will never get out of her suffering.
 
In this brief response of Joan’s NO WHERE does…

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November 9, 2012

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I felt that it was important to bring, comments to my guest post, forward for all to see, on their own…separate from the post I wrote. These comments come from people that have known me for decades, know my life and my values and their opinions mean more to me than any other persons, behind my sisters Ruth and Kathy, who have been battlemates with me against Joan Wheeler who has violated our family’s honor.

Now, after my guest post was published, on birthmothers4adoption, and I reblogged it on my own blog, I sent it to a friends of mine, who shall remain unknown, to get their reaction. This is their response to what I wrote.

Hi Gert,

This is powerful stuff, congratulations. I can see why those who have been there done that would love it, as well as why it’s not for the nervous nellies, ninny-nannies or the…

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November 9, 2012

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Tying up some of my loose threads and bits of drafts,  I noticed that I had never blogged about Joan Wheeler using a local writers group to spread her hate campaign against adoption.

UPDATE Dec 2015; as older posts are being seen I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler says about me and family. After the first book was pulled from publication by the publisher, May 2011, she has ‘self-published’ yet again, her ‘story’, NOW called ‘duped by adoption’. There is NOTHING in it for adoption reform, for she is totally against adoption and her two families. To learn more see…

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoption1

NOW BACK TO THIS POST

Ruth did, of course, blogged this, on her blog; the links are in the body of this post. At the time that we found, what Joan had said…

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November 6, 2012

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“won’t my sis’s be pissed – they’re reading this right now”; says Joan Wheeler in a comment about an adoption conference -because she can’t ever leave us out of her nonsense.

another attempt at exploiting the birth family by Joan Wheeler.

If you think that Joan Wheeler is truly interested in adoption reform you really ought to think twice. She only believes in her own self-importance and ALWAYS has her birth siblings, in mind, whenever she does anything. Doubt me? Well here’s a quote of Joan’s…(won’t my sis’s be pissed – they’re reading this right now)…read on.

No we were NOT reading it at the time she wrote that, but yes indeed, we did read it. Joan doesn’t grasp the reality of the internet…everything she writes is there forever and it is only a matter of time before those words surface and is captured. So, if she wants…

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November 6, 2012

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“won’t my sis’s be pissed – they’re reading this right now”; says Joan Wheeler in a comment about an adoption conference -because she can’t ever leave us out of her nonsense.

another attempt at exploiting the birth family by Joan Wheeler.

If you think that Joan Wheeler is truly interested in adoption reform you really ought to think twice. She only believes in her own self-importance and ALWAYS has her birth siblings, in mind, whenever she does anything. Doubt me? Well here’s a quote of Joan’s…(won’t my sis’s be pissed – they’re reading this right now)…read on.

No we were NOT reading it at the time she wrote that, but yes indeed, we did read it. Joan doesn’t grasp the reality of the internet…everything she writes is there forever and it is only a matter of time before those words surface and is captured. So, if she wants…

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November 2, 2012

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Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

I was recently asked to do a guest blog post for these folks. November is National Adoption Awareness Month. There are many sides to the views of adoption. I try very hard not to take any political position, for mine are not political only personal.

http://birthmothers4adoption.blogspot.com

I really want to thank them for asking me and for their courage in posting my viewpoint.

If you are new to my blog please look around.

thank you very much to the ladies at birthmothers4adoption for this opportunity

 

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