HERE WE GO AGAIN…having fun!
No, I’m not into the S&M like what Joan is into…but metaphorically speaking…yes, Joan needs a good Bitch Slap! Where’s a good male dominate when you need one! Brian Maloney where art thou! Oh gosh let’s not tell him that he MAY have been replaced by…by…Daniel…no say it isn’t SO!! Brian has been replaced with Daniel! Ah gee! Poor guy! I could have told you that a long time ago…Joan has been wetting her pants, over Daniel, for a long time now. She’s been sucking up to Daniel ever since he first appeared on the forum for Adult Adoptees Advocating for Change! Too bad he lives half a globe away! Joan loves to suck…up! Shocked? Why should you, haven’t you been aware of the perverse nature of Joan Wheeler YET? It’s nothing new to the birth family. Is that why you, Brian, don’t want to get ‘involved’, as…
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more lies and disrespect she ought to be ashamed
To quote her ‘the human costs are incalculable’. Speaking for the birth family, so are all the pains and slander and fabrications and harassment that Joan Wheeler has done, and still is doing, to two families because she cannot accept her lot in life. As a member of the real ‘forbidden family’, who has been repeatedly slandered by Joan, I refute her statements in her post of 27 February 2013 on her blog here… http://forbiddenfamily.net/
I have no interest in any political or personal side of the adoption issue. I do agree that family medical history and personal identification information ought to be provided and that reform should follow proper law-abiding methods. Browbeating pro-adoption people, myself included, is NOT proper methods.
I AM AN ADOPTED MOTHER. I have had experience with the ‘system’. I also have suffered at the hands of Joan Wheeler because I AM AN ADOPTED MOTHER.
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It is so useless to ask those ‘what ifs’ about the life you didn’t have! If only I won the lottery! If only I was born in another country, had different color skin, was in a wealthy family or that I wasn’t adopted! What a f…ing waste of energy to think this way! You DIDN’T get a different life! You GOT the life you WERE to have…so make the best of it! The grass is NOT greener on the other side! This line of thinking of Joan’s, points to the fact that she must have been abused in the adoptive family, because, once she knew her birth family, she really didn’t WANT US because she systematically destroyed every relationship in it! So much for wishful thinking of ‘what if’ I was not adopted! She had both families and she didn’t LIKE EITHER OF THEM.
There are many things that…
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AN OLDIE BUT A GOODIE
Having a blog, and being co-administrator with Ruth, I am always surprised at many of Ruth’s earlier blog posts; they are quite enlightening and very entertaining! Ruth is in the unique position to have had ACTUAL long term, up-close and personal, DEALINGS with Joan, more than myself and Kathy. Ruth KNEWS Joan better than most people! That’s why Joan ‘goes after’ Ruth the way she does!
I’m equally surprised at search terms and links from other blogs!
Today, on Ruth’s blog, was a link, which I had not seen before. So I clicked on it and was utterly blown away with laughter at the; it was NO joke. But of course, I knew that it was ‘reality’ for it really is the way Joan M Wheeler believes and acts (out)! So then I got to wondering, why this particular link showed up…someone must have been on that link and then…
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Is Joan Wheeler one? Is Joan an innocent bystander in the internet world, just telling her story, her view, her perception or she is more?
Joan’s blogs have and are being used to promote hate against her birth family. She buries, deep into her blog, bits of hate, against the birth family. She has also created an entire blog devoted to slander, lies, falsehoods and name-calling of the birth siblings, as well as condemnation of us. She had written a libelous book and promoted it, far and wide, in the internet world, as far back as 2008, perhaps ever earlier. She has enlisted other adoptees and friends, to ‘go get my sisters’ and ‘shut them up’ and ‘defend her’ (I know of 2 male friends of Joan’s, who don’t know us sisters, who non-the-less, have abused us in print, Russ and Brian) and this goes on in many avenues on…
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KARMA always karma….
how prophetic is this? – wow!
So about a month ago, I signed up for a facebook app – “Your Daily Tarot” – each day, we are given one Tarot card and it’s meaning. Today, The Nine of Swords was posted.
I just got done with a new blog comment over at Gert’s blog, outlining Joan’s filthy STEALING from me. Then I go to facebook and see today’s Tarot card. What is the meaning of the Nine of Swords? Well here it is:
“The Nine of Swords
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ARE WE HAPPY YET??
if they are happy they are in denial and ignorant and out of touch!
There just isn’t anything that will please Joan Wheeler! If someone is HAPPY there must be something wrong with them. Just take a look at the following exercise in putting a wet blanket on someone else’s happiness. No wonder Joan is a angry hateful person, she can’t accept another person happiness!! And she has this fixation that if only everyone READ THE SAME BOOKS AS SHE HAS they would be SAVED…sounds like book idolatry to me!
The statements in red are someone else statements that Joan is answering. Joan’s are in italics. My comments follow Joan’s.
|Re: Happy Adoptees That Don’t Search« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2012, 12:05:11 PM »|
“I know _______ who is happy he is adopted and never wanted to know his birth parents. He never felt the need to search and doesn’t…
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Joan Wheeler’s Tweets Jan 28th
On Saturday January 26, my cousin’s husband died. I didn’t know about it. I was sleeping all day Saturday, worked Saturday night. Sunday night, I was off from work, but was up all night doing housework. Slept Monday – work Monday night. At 2am, I was slightly injured when an elevator at work dropped suddenly. I only suffered some muscle strain. Went to ER – then home. At 4am – went to bed. Slept until 10:30, 11am. Drinking coffee and reading twitter and I find that I’m using my cousin’s death to spread rumors about Joan. I’m like, I just fucking woke up – what the hell did I do now? While I’m fucking sleeping? – So I call my cousin Nancy and asked if there was a death in the family. And she tells me. I then call my other cousin Becky and she gives me the details. Yet Joan has me charged, convicted and condemned of using this guys death to bother her. And then further uses this event to spout her stupid crap once again.
Outside of the fact in tweets #6,7 where Joan Wheeler is accusing me of doing something I have not done, and spreading lies about me – are these the messages of a sane person?
Tweets #8, 16, 17 are totally off the wall! Melissa’s husband just died, no one is suggesting she is giving her 4 year old up for adoption – yet Joan Wheeler is speculating about it on public internet.
My comments are in italics
That little girl is now a half orphan. Too many, too many.
10:12 AM – 29 Jan 13 ·
Can’t be on Facebook now. Too many deaths since Sept. Very sad. In shock. Another 2nd cousin, adopted fam, died, father of 2 yr old daughtr
Trauma. Sadness. Generational. Must see Aunt soon to tell her I love her. She does’nt know, would kill her: granddaughter lost husband.
Yes. Another new half orphan. This one will not be given up for adoption. I don’t blame my Dad for giving me up. His wife died.
Nobody in the family said ANYthing about adoption.
Please pray for Mom who lost her husband Sat morn. She’ll need family around her, her sisters, brothers, now keep her safe. Await memorial.
Will they butt into this family tradegy? (speculation, NOT any truth). Yes, we are all family. They are not wanted in this family group. My Twitter friends, please pray.
This family group invited me to family brunch held at Country Buffet on December 23, 2012, even called my cousin Nancy a few times to get hold of me because they didn’t have my new phone number.
My sisters are on Twitter. Blocked them. They will get these Tweets to spread rumors I am causing trouble. Father of new widow avoids them.
Joan’s words speak for themselves. The only person spreading rumors is Joan herself. And I just saw the father of new widow on Dec. 23, 2012. and yeah, we’re on twitter – deal with it.
Wonder if anyone will suggest to my 2nd cousin that her “4 yr old daughter needs 2 parents” so give her up for adoption?
What the fuck?
Ripples…My Aunt, 86, pregnant at same time my Mom was, sees my Mom when she sees me. Dementia now. Doesn’t know about granddaughter’s loss
This aunt, my godmother was lucid when I saw her on Dec. 23, 2012.
Ripple effect. My mother died when I was 3 months old. Grievinf father told to give me up for adoption because I “needed 2 parents”. WTF
WTF is right! – And this has WHAT to do with Melissa’s hubby just dying?
Too much trauma. Ripple effect. My daughter, age 26, grieves along side of her cousin. They shared a childhood. Death, loss, nightmares.
oh geez! so dramatic!
Another death. Young father killed in car crash, leaving behind wife, age 26, and 4 year old daughter. The wife is my 2ndcousin, by blood.
First cousin, once removed.
For what purpose is it to remake a child’s birth certificate in adoption? You have new custody..is that enough? Guardianship keeps inline
there is no god. To take away a child’s father id creul. You took away y mother + gave me new one. Fuk’ed me over. Another one now.
Um Joan, Melissa’s daughter is not YOU. Stop this crazy talk.
Death…you come upon us when we think we know time. You took my mother when I was a babe. Yu took my cousin’s hubby + left a 4 yr old: why
why? because we are all mortal – none of is going to live forever. and the only person who knows time is Dr. Who.
Death be not proud! Do not take the widows and the children and make them puppets for the adoption mills! Not one more lost to adoption…
Death be not proud! Joan really needs to be in theatre! Um, Joan, did Melissa say she was giving her daughter up for adoption?
As I watch the new half orphans march passed me, I see their tiny faces and think: you have people who will not stand for you to be adopted
Oh right – Joan – you have NO right to stick your nose into other people’s business – be it about adoption or anything else.
I cannot control my grief. too many deaths. too much loss, too much, too much. There is no reaason.
Their deaths are not about YOU Joan and YOUR feelings. We grieve because we will miss them, yes, but their death is about THEM. Get over yourself Joan.
I grieve for my 2nd cousin’s husband, dead in car accident. Gone too soon. Wife and child left behind. Momma, like you, they died too soon.
The only comment she made that made any damn sense and contained any kind of respect for Melissa.
comments on this blog post:
1. Paula –
She does belong in theatre…musical comedies.
– roflmao! – I was reading aloud the tweets to my husband – using dramatic tones – we were both laughing so hard.
Everything is from the dialogue in her head, which isn’t based on reality!
what would the musical score be?
and what kind of musical would that be like? It would have to be one person singing to them self…oh wait a minute…she does that already and when the inner dialogue can’t stay in her head, she opens mouth/typing fingers and leaves no room for doubt in everyone’s mind just how bad it/she is!
Speaking of theatre – I printed this list out and read them aloud to my husband. I really emoted with the reading. But I failed in finding the motiviation of my character. Method acting teaches us to examine our character and ask “what’s my/their motivation?”
The only motivation I can think of behind these silly tweets is pure stupidity and craziness.
Joan Wheeler is one such ‘self’!
The title of this post, and the article within, are NOT of my writing. I recently ‘re-read’ the following article and was stuck to find the reference to narcissistic-ness, in an article about Buddhist philosophy. It’s one of those things where until you become aware of it, it doesn’t show itself, but once you are aware of it, it is everywhere! That’s the beauty of studying wisdoms; you are always learning!
Now, if a reader is unfamiliar with this subject, the following may be a bit heavy shedding but give it a try; there is much worth here. I have been a student/practitioner of many wisdom based traditions for over 30 years; Buddhism is only one. I will be bolding certain sentences; this is my own way of bringing the attention to aspects of Joan Wheeler’s narcissistic nature. The bolding does not…
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chasing away Midwinter darkness and bringing in light – something Joan Wheeler really needs to learn February 2, 2013Posted by Ruth in Lessons in Life, Refuting Joan Wheelers statements.
Today, February 2nd is Midwinter. In popular American culture, we call it Groundhog Day. A groundhog comes up out of his den, sees his shadow, gets scared and runs back into his den. This means we will have six more weeks of winter. If he doesn’t see his shadow, he stays out. This means we will have an early spring. I don’t really pay attention to that – but the Native Americans and older cultures did. In 2013, we have the modern meterologists to tell us what the weather will be like in the weeks to come.
In the Catholic Church, today is Candlemas. Where candles are lit and candles to be used in church in the following months are blessed.
In Pagan traditions, today is Imbolc – Midwinter, where we light candles to bring the light once more into our homes. The dark dreary days of Winter are passing. The daylight hours are growing longer. And we examine our lives – to see where we should shed light – and to rid ourselves of dark things.
Joan Wheeler lives a very dark life. She sits and wallows in her self pity. She really should let some light into her life.
The following is a brief exchange Gert and I just had on facebook. It started out with me talking about my cat Pippin. And Gert replied, and then I commented. When I read what I wrote, I thought “what a good blog post this would be.” And so here it is:
Ruth: as you know, Pippin is a very well-adjusted feline, for being an adotee. However, he doesn’t like other felines in HIS house. So as long as the stray cat is on the porch and not IN the house, Pippin just turns his back. I have been teaching him that we don’t turn our backs on the homeless, and we must – in all charity – feed the poor stray cat.
Gert: oh brother!! now there’s something joan should do to get her mind off shit…take care of others
Gert here; Ruth didn’t see my next comment so here it is, plus more…
that’s the problem with those like her…they are so self-centered only giving lip service to those that are in need and they do nothing…notice what she has on her tweeter account…videos of seriously horrorable misuse of children…I believe she gets off on that shit…and then she and others think they are doing the world a service by saying those abused kids should not be adopted …instead of getting their hands dirty by doing just what you suggest…doing SERVICE to those that are less fortunate than themselves.
I have, in the past, volunteered in food pantries and was on the board of the Urban Mission, and spoke with abused women and recovering addict groups. I currently volunteer for Hospice!
What good does Joan’s carrying on DO? all she does is browbeat people that adopt and don’t see her view of the world. It’s her lost, let her stay in her dark dark world.
as always another look at what goes on with Joan Wheeler
Joan M Wheeler has published a new ‘revision’ of the same old hate manifesto and renamed it ‘Duped by Adoption’. I have created a new blog and Facebook page…
Here are the links to my NEW blog and Facebook page
On Amazon, I have reviewed 7 reviews of this ‘new’ garbage book and created a ‘discussion’ on the Forward, by Rene Hoksbergen.
Here’s the link to the DISCUSSION about the FORWARD on Amazon
Here’s the link to a recent blog post Nov 3, 2015 about the contents of the forward
Here are the related links to blog posts that Ruth and I have already written and addressed topics related to Rene Hoksbergen, the author of the Forward.
https://ruthsippelpace.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/gert-mcqueens-review-of-rene-hoksbergens-review-of-forbidden-family-by-joan-wheeler/ this one is about the review in LAVAContact2 2010 English translation
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another great post about adoptees not having a sense of humor
She maintains that adoption causes identity confusion and it is part of the mental illness that adoptees share and have! My, I didn’t know that Joan can make a diagnosis! Perhaps the board of ethics of Social Workers would like to know about this!
On the public forum of Adult Adoptees Advocating for Change, 1adoptee, ie. Joan Wheeler, gives everyone her two cents worth. The first paragraph is a quote from someone that Joan (in italics) is answering. I then give my comments.
I asked well, what was my name when you got me, or was everyone calling me “kid”?. She just says she doesn’t remember, but that they had “already decided”. I just glared and said within myself, “Well, I do…..” No wonder I…
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angry adoptees have no sense of humor
When I commented on Gert’s recent blogpost “Joan Wheeler admits that she has a mental illness!!!” I brought up the subject of my adoptive cat Pippin. Gert came on and created such a ruckus because I failed to mention that about two years ago, she bought a present for Pippin and mailed it to him. To shut her up, I will now post the pictures of Pippin opening his package.
Pippin posing with his mail
Pippin opens his package
Pippin and Blue Godzilla
Blue Godzilla is no match for Pippin the Mighty
Pippin with his Poppy John
Pippin helps John with remodeling.
Pippin enjoys watching Godzilla movies.
He is a music lover.
He is active in sports.
And is a Biker.
He’s a well-rounded adoptee – with many interests and no hangups about who he is or what he is. So what is wrong with Joan that she’s got…
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Joan Wheeler may have been abused because of her adoption, but this doesn’t give her the right to abuse ME! February 1, 2013Posted by Ruth in Joan Wheeler's abuse and harassment of her birth family, Refuting Joan Wheelers statements.
This morning, Gert highlighted an old post of mine on her blog: “Pippin the Mighty – a well adjusted, very happy adoptee, who is NOT in any sort of state of denial, that I wrote on April 7, 2012. I left this comment on that post, but it should be a separate post all on its own:
A new friend of mine on facebook has been following The Joni Show lately and left this comment: “Unless she (Joan) wants to realize that her parents’ choices are not a reflection on her, and that she can move forward any time she chooses.” To which I replied: “she knows all that – she doesn’t WANT to move forward – she WANTS to wallow in her misery – to garner sympathy – oh poor poor pitiful me, I was given up for adoption while my sibs were not. sob” so yeah – Princess Leia, like countless others are adopted. And are handling it just fine. In recent years on the internet – I’ve seen many “damaged” adoptees. These are the ones who were adopted and suffered abuse at the hands of the people who adopted them. For those, I truly do feel some sympathy. I have come to realize that Joan must have suffered some sort of physical abuse – tho she has never said so. But the signs are there. Throughout her book – she is fixated on “hand movements” – she describes one abusive relationship in 2007 where the guy is screaming at her and she balls up into a fetal position. – if she was physically abused, then she has my sympathy. HOWEVER – her “damaged” childhood or whatever demon she is fighting DOES NOT GIVE HER THE RIGHT TO ABUSE ME – AND SHE HAS BEEN ABUSING ME SINCE 1983 – AND THIS MUST STOP. I was three years old when she was adopted – I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. In 1974, when we were reunited, I took her into my life and my heart and was repaid with nothing short of bullshit abuse! Thefts, lying, manipulation, harassment. NO MORE!
- 1. Paula – February 1, 2013[
Yes. Poor Joan. Does she realize lots of people go through pain but don’t seek revenge on everyone who they blindly and maliciously claim to be responsible for the pain? She is sick and delusional. I wish everytime she posted somewhere on the internet her comments would be automatically tagged “liar, manipulator, and delusional” then you wouldn’t have to do it manually.
ROFLMAO! Joan’s name is synonomous with LIAR, MANIPULATOR, DELUSIONAL!