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Joan Mary Wheeler, always the suck up, tries to gain the attention of a true ‘founder’ of adoption reform! July 24, 2015

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Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

People really don’t know Joan Wheeler, let alone understand her. We, the birth siblings, have known and seen the real Joan, we were her FIRST victims! And because we share the same parents we are forever her VICTIMS!

Joan works herself up over the ‘visions’ she has of becoming a world renown ‘adoption reform activist’. She claims she is, a reform activist, but in really she just is a hateful person that hates adoption, going after anyone who adopts. Is that what adoption reformers do?

She thinks that she can gain ‘national’ attention by sucking up to others, hanging on their shirt tails and eventually taking over. Oh mark my words! She will use anyone for her own parade! Be watchful…all you adoption reformers…whether you pay attention to Joan, know her or not…SHE WILL USE YOU and then toss you away the second you disagree with her.

Joan never thinks…

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Don’t lie to me or lie about me – cos I will put it on this blog. July 22, 2015

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#JoanMaryWheeler needs to loosen up her tight ass July 18, 2015

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#JoanMaryWheeler needs to loosen up her tight ass

 yes, I not only like and collect monster/horror movies, I like and collect these kinds of things – and get a new CD every Halloween. gods, Joan, lighten up and learn how to have fun. You don’t have to have monster fun like I do, but unloosen your tight ass.
by the way, notice I used the hashtag – a new feature on facebook – so when you do a search on facebook be sure to use it #JoanMaryWheeler – some interesting things show up.

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Joan Mary Wheeler reaches out, for any old thread, to weave her tales of BS, that #adoption is an evil that MUST BE STOPPED…but July 15, 2015

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Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

…it back-fires on her!

Somehow I saw the following site, dated February 26, 2014, on which Joan made comments on or about 29 June 2015. Joan was probably LOOKING for something that related to the recent Supreme Court decision about gay marriages. In any event, it led to a couple of replies/comments by me and sister Ruth.


Oh and if Joan Wheeler is ‘self-employed’ perhaps the state of New York Disability would LIKE TO KNOW that, as Joan is receiving SSI and can NOT work and receive benefits!

Joan Mary Wheeler ·  Freelance Writer at Self-Employed Jun 29, 2015 4:24pm

Claudia Corrigan D’Arcy and to Martha Osborne —

I caution against ANY adoption at all! Here is why: if you adopt an older child out of foster care, that child has a name, knows that she has two parents who, for whatever reason, cannot be effectual parents…

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Dingbat Dana Seilhan is now outed as a lying hypocritical STALKER July 10, 2015

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update: December 10, 2017 – my blog stats on December 9, 2017 showed that the 3 posts about Dana (this one and two others) were looked at. — I double checked Dana’s aboutme page and sometime between August 2015 and December 2017 — she removed all references to me and Gert. — Good girl Dana – now stop stalking us. If you can’t be unboring without referencing us, well that’s life. Here is the text that appears on her aboutme page:

My homepage is at http://www.danaseilhan.com and serves pretty much the same purpose as this page. What can I say… The Internet can be redundant sometimes.

I look at other people’s profiles here and they are very colorful and descriptive. Sorry I’m boring, but I’m not very good at self-introductions.

Dingbat Dana Seilhan is now outed as a lying hypocritical STALKER

UPDATE – AUGUST 22, 2015 –

Dana Sielhan got caught and took down her http://www.danaseilhan.com page – WHY?

Dana, you are one stupid bimbo – first you get caught stalking us, leading us to your page that says you do things that you don’t know why you do things. Then you take down that page. lol. – Dana dear, you showed everyone, that you not only do things that you don’t know why you do things, but you showed us all that you are a fucking coward as well. Because that is all that backtracking says  about a person – that you are willing to open your big mouth (or type shit on the internet) but you haven’t got the backbone to stand by what you say. asshole.

now back to my original post:

Well the past 24 hours events have been very interesting. On Dana’s aboutme page she truthfully says she blocked me and Gert on facebook. Because after our spat some time ago she HAD blocked me. Well, because Dana had stalked Gert’s aboutme page, I decided to look up Dana’s facebook page and she had UNBLOCKED ME.

She accuses me and Gert of stalking her – well Gert had an email notification that a “Dana Seilhan” had viewed her aboutme page. Gert goes to her aboutme page and sees Dana’s wakco face as one of those who has viewed her aboutme page. Gert then posted that on my facebook and that’s when I made my own aboutme page. I had not had one before.  – https://about.me/paceruth
AND I did some checking on Dana.

On her page called Dana’s Domain (copyright 2015)- http://www.danaseilhan.com/ – she says: ”…like my about.me page does, and I have no idea why I bothered setting one up. I must have been bored or something.” – Dana, do you always do things that you don’t know why?

Her Dana’s Domain was made THIS YEAR and I’m betting so was her aboutme page. But we have not had ANY contact with Dana for over a year. So WHY is Dana all of a sudden accusing me and Gert of stalking her, but there is clear evidence that Dana herself is now STALKING us?

What ever games you are playing little Dana – you just showed us and everyone else what a sicko you are. go grow up.

So Dana – if you don’t want anything to do with me – and you say you have blocked me on facebook – explain this screenshot taken at 3:40 pm on July 10, 2015.

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Dana – you’re a liar.

dishonest people – that’s YOU Dana.

 You know, it’s the internet – and a lot of what you put out there is public. People are looking at your stuff. They’re googling you. I’m sure a lot of people have googled my name and looked at my stuff. It’s the nature of the beast. But when someone specifically makes an aboutme page SOLELY for the purpose of accusing two women of stalking her, then evidence is found that that person is stalking those two women in turn – well – I think you know where I’m going with this. Yep – Dingbat Dana has indeed been outed as a hypocritical liar.

gertmcqueenJuly 10, 2015

Gert here… yep I come home from a wonderful evening of dinner and comedy-magician with my ‘part-time’ husband of 18 years (eat your hearts out, I have my cake and I can eat it too) I have both of two worlds, it works for us, I have my own apartment and his country home, on the weekends.

Anyway, I come home to find Dana’s face on my about.me page! what the fuck! and she’s accusing me of stalking her! get a life broad! Joan Wheeler and Dana ought to ‘hook-up’ they are so joined at the hips!

And get this straight…I and Ruth shall DEFEND ourselves and family, against any and all lies that Joan M Wheeler says, in the past, present and in the future. Doesn’t matter where or when I shall find her words and I SHALL EXPOSE THEM…DEAL WITH IT.

RuthJuly 10, 2015

wonder if she ever lost that weight she was wining about some time ago. lol She has no self esteem, and appears to have many psychological problems. Apparently, she and Joan have the same issues – they must crave attention – because as much as they complain about us – they do things to GET our attention. And contradict themselves and trip themselves up in the process.

RuthJuly 10, 2015

wasn’t she also whining about not being “self-sufficient?” lack of job? – I don’t understand it. There ARE jobs out there – WHY can’t a person find one? Kids at home? so what? There have been millions of women – single moms included – who take overnight jobs in hospitals as nurse’s aides, environmental service aides, patient transport aides. Come home, get the kids off to school, go to bed and sleep, get up, make dinner, snooze during the evening.
I used to wonder about my friend Debbie’s mom – why she was always napping in the evenings when I’d be at Debbie’s house. She had set up a TV room off the kitchen with a couch and chairs. She would snooze on the couch while the 3 kids would watch TV – or be at the kitchen table doing homework. Their father worked until 9pm and then she would go to Millard Fillmore Gates to her 11pm job as a nurses aide.
I guess slinging bedpans is too gross for some people. I’ve done it for 43 years – and you know what? Dr. Christian Barnard, who performed the world’s first heart transplant, worked his way thru medical school AS a male nurse’s aide – and said in his autobiography that he was proud to do so – because it showed him a side of his patients that helped him become a better doctor.
Many nurses work their way thru nursing school while being nurse’s aides. – And there are other careers to choose from if a hospital setting is not for you – I simply can NOT buy that tired old excuse WHY you can’t find a job – just get the fuck off your lazy ass and get one. – If you are tied down with little kids, fine, that’s understandable. But they are not little forever.

RuthJuly 11, 2015

Dana really needs to start with some motivational programs. Dana, go to your local library and check out the DVD audio books of Dr. Wayne Dyer, Anthony Robbins. Also go online and subscribe to them and Gregg Braden via facebook. You don’t have to agree 100% with them – but they have some really good stuff.
Another one – but it’s old, so you might have to do some digging to find it – is John Bradshaw and The Family – this an excellent program on PBS some 25 years ago – google it.
If you have problems then stop fucking whining about them and get to work and fix them. It’s an ongoing process – but you are coming off as a sick twisted puppy with your self-flagellations and spying on us and then turning around and accusing us of exactly what YOU are doing.

Dingbat Dana Seilhan, delusional buddy of Joan Mary Wheeler – shut the fuck up July 10, 2015

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 Gert found this from Dana Seilhan, delusional buddy of Joan Mary Wheeler on HER aboutme page – some bimbo accusing Gert and me of stalking her – well how did it end up on Gert’s page? Seems as though Dana’s been STALKING Gert! hypocrite. When someone views your page – you are notified. Dana, when you viewed Gert’s page, she found out about it – and WHY are you STALKING/VIEWING Gert’s page?

 LOL – oh my god! so yeah, if you’re going to accuse me of something – I’m gonna go do it. don’t want to make you out to be a liar, ya’ know! So I STALKED on over to Dana’s LinkedIn page – where you place your professional resume – and this nutcase says she’s a Martian anthropologist! Now I like science fiction and fantasy in general and Star Trek in particular, but I can distinguish fantasy from reality!
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Dana, Marvin the Martian says FUCK YOU

And Dana has the nerve to say that Gert and I are insane? I am astonished at the stupidity of people. And yes, Dana, I too, am opinionated. Don’t like it? TOUGH. My opinion of you is that you are in dire need of professional counseling.


 This delusional person says this:

 I seem to be being stalked by adoption activist Joan Wheeler’s insane sisters for some reason. I am not interested in any BS you are trying to sell. You took what you perceived as one bad experience and you are using it to abuse other adoptees that you have never even met. It’s not difficult to figure out who’s in the wrong here, and you keep compounding it too. Why don’t you get the hell off the Internet and go take a very long walk off a very short pier. Thanks in advance.

 Ruth here – first she is supposed to be a writer – well what the hell “I seem to be being stalked.” it should read, “It appears that I am being stalked.” Dana, if you’re going to be a writer, learn some grammar.

Now I had ONE bad experience with Dana over a year ago via facebook. She is a delusional BITCH. She is one of Joan Mary Wheeler’s friends. And most of those “friends” are sick in the head. They take Joan’s side of the story as the golden truth without considering there is a possiblility that Joan could be lying.

My experience with Dana started I believe in conversation on Huffington Post, in which, if memory serves, Dana and I were conversing intelligently – until Dana found out that I was one of Joan’s birth sisters – and then Dana turned into a bitch and called me names. (oh how adult). I call her names here, because yeah, she is a bitch – convicted and condemned me solely on the basis that I am Joan’s birthsister. Fuck her – she is an asshole. Now, I’m not 100% sure that this was how it went down – because it happened way over a year ago – perhaps two, three years ago. This is how much Dana is on my mind for me to be stalking her, that I don’t remember exactly what went down between us. No Dana, you are simply not that important to me – I forgot all about you a long time ago.

I did send her this email tonight: 

Dana, yes, we had a tiff over a year ago – I haven’t thought of you since then. And my, how adult how you are to say to someone to take a long walk off a short pier. Nobody is stalking you.

You take the word of Joan as golden without even considering there are two sides – when on my blog I have posted actual police and court documents that prove that Joan lies about me.

Recently she was caught blasting Joyce Bahr on her facebook, and others asked her to show proof of what she said about Joyce. She would not.

Where is the proof of what she has said about me? Why don’t you try to be fair?

That was the only intent I had in contacting you – then and now – for YOU to be FAIR – but, since you cannot – that shows me the kind of person you truly are. – shove it lady.

As to me abusing adoptees? oh my! When I first started this blog in November 2009, Joan Wheeler had a fit! She joined an adoptee forum called Adult Adoptees Advocating for Change and in February 2010, under Joan’s request – a bunch of those so called “adult” adoptees came over here and left obscene comments. Yeah – Mara Rigge for one – who never met me in person or internet, called me a bitch – there was someone named Myst – and several others that I don’t remember their names. So when it comes to Joan’s Birthsisters vs The Adoptees – The Adoptees fucked with me first – this blog which has a daily average of 20 hits, in one day in February 2010 had about 178 hits – and in two days about 30 obscene comments. Why? Because Joan told them to do it and I’m betting Joan told Dana to write this shit about us now.

my stats   here you go – the stats for February 26, 2010 – 53 adoptees came running and were all over my blog.

oh – here’s another one of Dingbat Dana’s pages:


roflmao! She says she set up her aboutme page because she was bored. So when you’re bored Dana, you set up pages to attack people you don’t know? lol. You’re full of shit and you know it – you set that page up solely for the purpose of trashing me and Gert and then you went to Gert’s aboutme page to get our attention. Poor little Dana, needs attention. oh, poor thing. Well bitch – you wanted our attention – and now you got it. You have only yourself to blame. There was NO contact, no nothing between you and us for over a year – until YOU started.

 The rest of Dana’s biography is so, so, – I don’t know – she’s out in left field! WAY BEYOND LEFT FIELD.

Well, I went and started my own about me page at https://about.me/paceruth 

My bio is this: 

Because you don’t know me at all. 

I’m a long time health care worker, (43 years) former professional belly dancer, a rabid Trekkie, and a paranormal investigator. I am a movie buff, and love movies and reading about science fiction, fantasy. My interests are wide and varied, and I am passionate about them. 

my about me page is about ME – I don’t put a whole paragraph falsely accusing and trashing people – because my about me page is about ME, not them.

 Gert here…
I had perhaps one or two replies TO HER after she ATTACKED me on a Huffington thread. YEARS AGO. before that it was her and others, the gang of thugs, friends of Joan Wheeler, attacked me and Ruth BECAUSE we are defending ourselves. WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SAY WHAT WE WANT ABOUT OURSELVES AND OUR FAMILY.
NOW I’ll just have to ADD Dana on my ‘info’ so that the WORLD can know all about HER as well as Joan

 RuthJuly 10, 2015

and since Joan Mary Wheeler wants to be part of our family – then she can just ACCEPT that Gert and I have the RIGHT to discuss our family.

and other people – like Dingbat Dana – are NOT a member of our family – have no right to stick their nose in a family situation.

5. gertmcqueenJuly 10, 2015

Gert here…

my updated about.me page …

Am birthsibling, of real #ForbiddenFamily, that Joan M Wheeler was adopted out of. I have and will share truth of the deeds and lies told/written by angry adoptee, Joan Wheeler, against my family; that is MY RIGHT!

Seems that Dana Seilhan doesn’t like me defending myself against those lies that MY FAMILY MEMBER writes about me and MY family. Dana claims I’ve been stalking her! Outside of a couple of comments on an internet discussion thread, years ago, where I was attack by Dana Seilhan, I have no contact with her and no desire to know her. She doesn’t mean a thing to me!

I’m an adoptive mother.

Besides that…there’s far more to me, overtime I shall incorporate that here.

Hey Joan Mary Wheeler – are you going to slam this horror game from 1964 for kids? or the new book coming out called Monster Mash? July 8, 2015

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in this post: a monster themed Old Maid card game from 1964. “Monster Mash” a new book detailing the monster fad for kids in the United States in the years 1957-1972.

gosh, a monster card game from 1964 – quick now Joan Mary Wheeler – you’d better slam Milton Bradley for making such a horrible game for kids aged 5-10 – a game based on horror movies.

No? You’re not going to slam Milton Bradley? Why not? Oh, I see, because Milton Bradley is NOT your birth sister Ruth – see, Milton Bradley can have stuff about horror movies and monsters, Hollywood can have tv shows like The Munsters and The Addams Family – but Ruth can not – absolutely can NOT have anything to do with monsters or horror movies. Why? Because bitch Joan Mary Wheeler has decreed it.

In 1964, I was 12 years old and in the monster craze – like a lot of other kids around the country – but Joan thinks there was something wrong with me for liking such things and has slammed me and my stepmother for liking monster and horror movies. Stop passing judgment on MY life and childhood Joan – pay attention to your own rotten life.

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I think I know what the problem is – when Joan was the lonely only child in her adopted home, she must not have had any fun – and after we were reunited (ugh, what a mistake that was) – she was told how much fun I had with my monsters and horror movies. So she simply HAS to slam my liking horror movies any chance she gets – like she did recently on her facebook – saying that I was “raised” on horror movies.

NO Joan, you fucking idiot – like a ton of other kids, I thought monsters were cool! But because YOU were raised in physically and mentally abusive house that comes right out of a horror movie you won’t admit that you were deeply affected by it and must take your shit out on the most convenient people you can – your birthsisters – and in particular me – because I, at the age of almost 63 (next month) am still having monster fun.  Face it Joan – you’re JEALOUS of the fact that despite me being raised without a mom – I succeeded in having fun as a child, while you did not. Aw, too bad. Am I crying over you? hell no!


Well looky-here! Look what popped up on my facebook newsfeed someone shared an article about this upcoming book on Amazon. READ IT AND LEARN JOAN MARY WHEELER – I wasn’t “raised” on horror movies – it was a NATIONAL FAD! (ever hear of The Munsters on TV? or the song Monster Mash?)

So now Joan Mary Wheeler – shut your fucking mouth about MY childhood, that you were NOT A PART OF.

Monster Mash: The Creepy, Kooky Monster Craze In America 1957-1972 Hardcover – July 23, 2015 by Mark Voger (Author), Basil Gogos (Illustrator), Jim Warren (Illustrator)

Time-trip back to the frightening era of 1957-1972, when monsters stomped into the American mainstream! Once Frankenstein and fiends infiltrated TV in 1957, an avalanche of monster magazines, toys, games, trading cards, and comic books crashed upon an unsuspecting public. This profusely illustrated, full-color hardcover covers that creepy, kooky Monster Craze through features on Famous Monsters of Filmland magazine, the #1 hit “Monster Mash,” Aurora’s model kits, TV shows (Shock Theatre, The Addams Family, The Munsters, and Dark Shadows), Mars Attacks trading cards, Eerie Publications, Planet of the Apes, and more! It features interviews with James Warren (Creepy, Eerie, and Vampirella magazines), Forrest J Ackerman (Famous Monsters of Filmland), John Astin (The Addams Family), Al Lewis (The Munsters), Jonathan Frid (Dark Shadows), George Barris (monster car customizer), Ed “Big Daddy” Roth (Rat Fink), Bobby (Boris) Pickett (“Monster Mash” singer/songwriter) and others, with a Foreword by TV horror host Zacherley, the “Cool Ghoul.”

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Joan the gorgon – she will turn you to stone with her ugly heart.

dedicated to all of those idiots who actually listen to the gossip spread by Joan Mary Wheeler July 1, 2015

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cos you know – I have posted actual court documents and letters (both typed and handwritten) and some of the envelopes that were sent to me by Joan Mary Wheeler that prove that Joan is a liar. But if those weak-minded assholes like Heather Cohen and the other little sheep want to have their fantasies …


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