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Dingbat Dana Seilhan (screwy friend of Joan Mary Wheeler) is still stalking me August 23, 2015

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Dingbat Dana Seilhan (screwy friend of Joan Mary Wheeler) is still stalking me

oh – so I looked at my blog stats yesterday afternoon – the 2 recent posts about Dana Seilhan had been viewed – and I looked at the other one – I had forgotten that I had left an email to Dana via her danaseilhan.com page – that means, Dana saw my email, took down the page, and has been STALKING my blog the past couple of days. hope she likes getting pie thrown in her crooked face.

It just totally amazes me how people bitch and moan about something, but are guilty of doing the same thing. Dingbat Dana purposely made an about me page, bitching about how the birthsisters (me and Gert) of Joan Wheeler were stalking her – but then turns around and stalks Gert’s about me page. – We know this because of the proof – Gert received a notice in her email that one Dana Seilhan had viewed her page and when Gert went to her aboutme page, there was Dana’s wacko face staring at her.

My blog stats showed that my posts about Dana were looked at, if memory serves, Thursday or Friday (a couple of days ago). Doing some double checking shows that Dana’s page – danaseilhan.com has been taken down (as I mentioned above). And now on Sunday afternoon, the Dana posts have been looked at again.

So, what we have here is hypocritical bitch – sees the email I sent her, comes running over to my blog (why are you stalking me Dana?) to see what’s going on. She backtracks by taking down her page – then waits a couple of days to see if I noticed it. Wow! Talk about a STALKER! I see that I have given her a very appropriate nickname: Dingbat Dana is completely accurate to descibe this wacko.

1. gertmcqueenAugust 24, 2015

Gert here…When Dana first APPEARED on MY about page…I exposed her as well, made a post I believe and INCLUDED her on my about page…since then I have adjusted it but Dana is STILL on my about page…Hey Dana knock yourself out! You want exposure you GOT exposure. I don’t get a rat’s ass for you or what you think. I shall comment on ANYTHING that Joan Wheeler writes because I CAN!
Deal with it!

Joan Mary Wheeler has a written an article for “Dissident Voice” titled “End Identity Theft Caused by Adoption.” August 23, 2015

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Joan Mary Wheeler has a written an article for “Dissident Voice” titled “End Identity Theft Caused by Adoption.”

It is a topic that Joan and other adult adoptees are very passionate about. And it is a topic that most people don’t think about because they haven’t experienced it or don’t know anyone who has.

Joan correctly points out that when people (usually adoptees) don’t have their original birth certificate (OBC), all sorts of problems arise. And many of those problems surfaced after the Homeland Security Act.

My own husband experienced these problems. He was born to an unwed teenage girl in 1943. He was not adopted, but due to shoddy paperwork by his family he was registered in Catholic grammer school under his step-father’s last name when his mother married the step-father. That step-father never adopted my husband – everyone just gave my husband that last name and that was that.

During the Vietnam War, when my husband was of age, he enlisted under that ‘assumed’ name. He was issued a social security number under that name and all his military papers, and subsequent documents throughout his adult life (driver’s license, employment), were all under that name.

After his mother died, he finally got his OBC, found in her papers. And his birthdate was off by a week. His retirement was coming up – we needed to fix the problem. He also couldn’t renew his driver’s license because after Homeland Security kicked in – he was not eligible for a license or a non-driver’s id card.

Even though all his documents, social security number, and military papers were under the name of Pace, his legal last name was his mother’s maiden name. We had to go in front of a judge with all this paperwork and have his name legally changed to Pace. The different birthdate wasn’t too much of an issue – we just had to change it on everything – we had to notify the IRS, the DMV, doctors, dentist – we just handled that when the times came when we would be doing business with those entities.

But it cost us almost $300.00! And it was not an uncommon thing we had to go through! The clerk in the surrogate judge’s office told me they see this kind of thing all the time! And nobody pays attention to it until they approach retirement age and find there’s a problem with their paperwork.

So getting back to Joan’s article – actually the rest of the article doesn’t concern me. Her writing style is very good. I have no problem with this kind of stuff that she champions – in fact, I applaud it. I just want to point out that we can see – she CAN leave us birthsisters OUT of her writing – WHEN SHE CHOOSES TO.

She can now point out that by my finding, reading, and commenting on this, that I have internet-stalked her. I choose to call it MONITORING what she writes about – because I have the right to see if she is writing anything about ME and MY FAMILY. And if she writes something about ME that is a lie, a misrepresentation, or a mockery of anything about ME OR MY LIFE, OR MY FAMILY – I most certainly will speak up.

AND because she mentions her kindle book “Forbidden Family: My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption,” which includes many blatant lies and misrepresentations and mockeries of me, and members of my family, I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO COMMENT ABOUT THIS ARTICLE that she has written.

Gert here with an UPDATE, FEBRUARY 2016, as older posts are being seen I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler says about me and family. After the first book was pulled from publication by the publisher, May 2011, she has ‘self-published’ another ‘revised’ version. In this ‘version’ called ‘duped by adoption’ she has increased her exploitation by including PICTURES and REAL NAMES and much more personal information violating again the families. Joan has no decency NOR shame. There is NOTHING in this book for adoption reform. She is totally against adoption and her two families. To learn more see…

 https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoption1

NOW BACK TO THE COMMENTS ON THIS POST

1. gertmcqueenAugust 23, 2015

Very good Ruth!
We do NOT do any kind of searching for Joan on the Internet, she puts herself out there! I saw at least 3 public shares of this article at 6 am this morning! We do monitor what she says because we ARE THE SUBJECTS in her books! She has published OUR family names, OUR parents names! Within the books she publishes REAL names of living and dead RELATIVES of our FAMILY. So, any time Joan M Wheeler references her books she is REFERENCING us.

I have comments on the reviews of her book on Amazon…that is a legit thing to do. We write our blogs, we have facebook and twitter and more accounts, just like the rest of the world. And, we will continue to say what we must!

RuthAugust 23, 2015

exactly Gert – the internet is for EVERYONE to use. And Joan is NOT the owner of the internet. If it is a PUBLIC post on a PUBLIC page, than I have the right to comment on it. If it is a private page, say a person’s website or blog, and the owner allows comments – it is NOT up to Joan to dictate if I or Gert can comment on it.

Joan Mary Wheeler does not understand monsters, despite being one herself. August 22, 2015

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Joan Mary Wheeler does not understand monsters, despite being one herself. 

Stupid ass Joan Mary Wheeler slams me for being a monster movie buff, saying derogatorily that I was “raised on horror movies.” stupid wench.

What happened was – in the mid-to-late 50’s, many old horror movies from the 1930’s – 40’s (Frankenstein, Dracula, Werewolf, Mummy, King Kong) became available to be shown on television. I don’t recall which station, but a Buffalo station would show them on Saturday afternoons. After the morning cartoons. Watching these movies in your living room with commercial breaks – these monsters did not scare us – and then the Madison Ave. commercialism set in – toys, cereal (Count Chocula), shampoo, all kinds of merchandise – and comic books, monster magazines appeared – then a few years later – The Addams Family and The Munsters appeared on television.

So was Ruth the only child in America watching this stuff? oh hell no – almost every dam kid in America was. 

Joan was an only child – and I suspect her adoptive parents did not let her watch these things. So she doesn’t understand. I remember her slamming the Garbage Pail Kids when they came out. – I am thinking – it was HER childhood that was warped, not mine – most kids aged 8-12 absolutely LOVE gross stuff – slime, snots, creepy crawlers.

And we see again – another example of how Joan Mary Wheeler is fucking JEALOUS of me and the fun childhood that I had – and she did not have so much fun. She says so right in her stupid book – she was lonely. Aw, too bad, I’m sorry that widdle Joanie had such a bad childhood – doesn’t give her the right to slam MY childhood. Bitch.

monster mash book

Just got this book in the mail today – Monster Mash by Mark Voger – about The Creepy, Kooky Monster Craze in America – 1957-1972

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An Invitation to view, like, and follow – August 15, 2015

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Gert McQueen’s New Blog and New Facebook Page

The Blog’s title –

The Life and Times of Joan M Wheeler; Duped by Adoption, A book Study

an in-depth analyzes of the book Forbidden Family My Life as an Adoptee Duped by Adoption by Joan M Wheeler and the author’s first book Forbidden Family

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

The Facebook page title –

The life and times of Joan M Wheeler; duped by adoption, a book study

(product/service)

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoption1

Be sure to check out the ‘about’ pages and

if you so feel like it…share them with your friends!

Thank you for your interest and support!

#JoanMWheeler #forbiddenfamily #dupedbyadoption lacks the skills/techniques of proper Pedagogy (science or art of teaching) August 8, 2015

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Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

By her own admittance she is ‘no’ speaker…but a writer! Well that is debatable! She obviously has no skills in diplomacy either! If someone objects to her or affirms their freedom to do, or think, for themselves, Joan then resorts to browbeating, bullying and insults!

The following are some exchanges seen on Twitter recently, July 30/Aug 1, 2015

This is not the first time that we have seen Joan M Wheeler brow-beat others for ‘their’ choices in life; unfortunately it won’t be the last.

IT STARTED HERE….

Bee Girl retweeted Brienne of Snarth

Whose names you think should appear on BC of kid of a straight couple who uses a sperm donor to conceive?

@beegirlny  said Jul 24

The sperm donor. That is the child’s bio heritage and ancestry.

      Then from…@forbiddenfamily  said Jul 30

@beegirlny@femme_esq Sperm donor’s name on BC as he IS the father! A-father name…

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Joan Mary Wheeler decides to step in (unwanted and uninvited) to help Laura Ruffino adopt the four daughters of her late best friend Elizabeth Diamond and blabs confidential information about the family on her facebook page. August 7, 2015

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“When Elizabeth Diamond was diagnosed with Stage 4 brain cancer in 2014, the single mom was deeply concerned about what would happen to her four young daughters after she was gone.   But Diamond, who died in April at the age of 40, needn’t have worried. Her best friend, Laura Ruffino of Orchard Park, New York adopted the four girls.”

So starts the article on this adoption (with a bit of help from me on that last sentance) on the Huffington Post, published on July 23, 2015. You can see the original Huffington post here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mom-adopts-friends-four-daughters_55b06bffe4b08f57d5d3afab

Well, it turns out that as the most supreme adoption expert out there, Joan Mary Wheeler decided to step in and give UNWANTED advice to Laura Ruffino via a mutual friend. Er, um, that is Joan WANTED to contact Mrs. Ruffino and advise her. I don’t know if Joan ever got to meet Mrs. Ruffino and tell her how to run her own life. But we have Joan’s full comment that she wrote on both the Huffington Post and on her facebook page on July 23, 10:04 pm. 

A friend of mine is a close friend of the deceased mother, Elizabeth Diamond. When she told me of the mother’s death and the impending adoption, I volunteered to help in the only way I knew: to give advice against the adoption. Why? Because I didn’t want the girls’ true identities to be sealed and then falsified by new birth certificates as this is what adoption does. Using my own life story as proof, I explained that I was given up to a closed adoption one month after the death of my mother from cancer. I was only three months old when my mother died. My father relinquished me to a closed adoption and kept his four older children. My adoption not only took away my family, but took away my birth certificate and gave me a completely new identity.

 I did not want the same thing to happen to these girls. I did not want them to lose their true identities in order to have a home with their mother’s best friend.

 I explained that legal guardianship would be a better choice, that Elizabeth Diamond’s best friend, Laura Ruffino, and her husband, Rico, could be legal guardians as opposed to adoptive parents. Guardianship, I explained, would preserve the four girls’ birth certificates, preserve Elizabeth Diamond’s place as their mother, and at the same time, give the four girls a stable home. Info was transferred to the attorney.

My friend later told me that the adoption was a necessary legal action to protect the girls. There are private, extenuating circumstances concerning the girls’ father. That is why he is not mentioned in the article.

 It was determined that the girls would, indeed, maintain their own birth certificates in this adoption: their birth certificates would not be sealed and no new birth certificates would be made implying that the new adoptive parents gave birth to these four girls.

 For that, I am grateful. These girls lost their mother in April. They did not need to lose their identities upon adoption on top of losing their mother.

The general public needs to know that there are other alternatives to adoption. Promoting adoption, and only displaying the happy side of adoption, is very misleading. The finality of adoption, the striping away of a child’s identity, the sealing of birth certificates and the automatic issuance of a new birth certificate upon adoption are all aspects of adoption that need to be pointed out as unnecessary and harmful to all adopted people.

Now go back up 4 paragraphs and re-read that sentance again and I repeat it here for emphasis: THERE ARE PRIVATE, EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES CONCERNING THE GIRL’S FATHER. THAT IS WHY HE IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE.

Following her posting this on her facebook page, was a discussion between Joan and her anti-adoption friends and one of them asked about the biological father of the four girls and Joan wrote this the following day on July 24 at 5:33pm:

“I was trying to get this family to go for legal guardianship as the father is a s********… that is why the family went for adoption – to keep him away from the girls.”

But less than 24 hours prior, Joan was saying that it was a PRIVATE circumstance about the bio-dad. So who the HELL does Joan Wheeler think she is to BLAB that PRIVATE information on her very PUBLIC facebook page, or ANYWHERE or to ANYONE?

This is coming from someone who keeps saying she is a social worker? No, she is not – she went to COLLEGE for social work, but she has NOT WORKED ONE SINGLE DAY AS A SOCIAL WORKER! And if she WAS a social worker, to breach the confidentiality of a current or prospective client is a a breach of the code of ethics of professional social workers. And there are ways for people to file complaints against a social worker and get their license pulled and censured and terminated from their place of employment. But Joan doesn’t work for ANYONE – she is on Social Security Disability. For her mental problems.

Think I am making this up? here are the screenshots I took of the comments that I quoted above as they appeared on Joan Mary Wheeler’s facebook page. I whited out that information that Joan Wheeler blabbed.

 joan reveals 2

joan reveals 1

Joan Mary Wheeler violated the privacy of people she doesn’t even know and I hope they go after her with a lawyer. And Laura Ruffino – if you read this – I would find out WHO that close friend of yours is that blabbed this information to Joan Wheeler in the first place.

Read Gert’s blog post about Joan’s sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong here: https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/when-others-adopt-joanmwheeler-volunteers-to-advise-them-against-doing-so-why-because-shes-been-dupedbyadoption/

UPDATE, APRIL 2016, as older posts are being seen I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler says about me and family. After the first book was pulled from publication by the publisher, May 2011, she has ‘self-published’ another ‘revised’ version. In this ‘version’ called ‘duped by adoption’ she has increased her exploitation by including PICTURES and REAL NAMES and much more personal information violating again the families. Joan has no decency NOR shame. There is NOTHING in this book for adoption reform. She is totally against adoption and her two families. To learn more see…

 https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/

https://www.facebook.com/dupedbyadoption1

How the sneaky dangerous #adoptee Joan M Wheeler, Duped by Adoption, operates, be it on public platforms, behind the scenes or in libelous and slanderous ways. … with apology from Gert for my ASS U ME (my assumption was wrong) August 4, 2015

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Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

I do apology for my lack of judgement when I stated that the screen name of ‘Denied My Rights’ was Joan M Wheeler. See comments below from Denied My Rights and my apology and explanation of events of why I assumed what I assumed.

We all know that Joan’s first book was pulled for libelous contents. She then started working on a 2nd edition and created another site; http://identity-press.com  Fine, knock yourself out.

I found the new version, in e-book format, in June 2015. It was published and placed on Amazon in May 2015. Ruth and I have been going over it and will address it as we did in the first one. We were WONDERING why she hadn’t announced it! Well she had a plan, but first she had to make a power play. Only time will tell, but my bet is on ‘she’ll lose’ cause she…

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