Tags: blaming people for stupid stuff, Joan Mary Wheeler, stupidity
This must be Joan Wheeler’s motto. And I guess I must really aggravate Joan Wheeler with my breathing. She blames me for everything.
I think I’ll go outside and breathe towards her house, which is like 5 miles away from me. When she wakes up in a few hours and sneezes, she won’t be made out to be a liar.
Oh, wait – is that even possible? Joan Wheeler lies more than Donald Trump.
wow A truly anal and argumentative person reviews Joan Wheeler’s trash book on amazon and can’t stand to have opposition viewpoints May 8, 2016Posted by Ruth in Having Fun with Disfunctionality, Uncategorized.
Update: Monday, May 16, 2016 on amazon this morning, I see that Mark had hastily reviewed 7 books. lol. – Reviewing a bunch of stuff a week after you’ve said you’ve reviewed things doesn’t show intelligence Mark, it shows someone who was caught in the act and now desperately trying to cover up his lies. — yes readers, because I had pointed out in this post that Mark LIED in his answer to me and Gert (about never having been “attacked’ for his reviews) – I had checked his reviews – he had only reviewed ONE – Joan’s book, then hastily added a second review of another book a couple of hours later – and then yesterday, he went and added 7 more reviews of products. This really shows that critic’s emotional intelligence is at “play” again. Grow up Mark – grown men don’t play at such things. And don’t forget Mark – dates and times of reviews show up on amazon. Your review of the book on John Lennon showed you wrote that review AFTER you said you had other reviews – but you didn’t – at the time you whined about “being attacked about your reviewS” – you only had one review up. I’m not stupid Mark. Not at all.
update – Sunday, May 15, 7pm – interesting – this old post was looked at in the last couple of hours. Speaking of reviews on amazon dot com by personal friends of Joan Wheeler:
My letter (Jan 18, 2011) to Nicole S. Urdang, therapist, who thought the trash book Forbidden Family by Joan Wheeler was a good book, but then pulled her review of it off amazon dot com. May 15, 2011
update: Sunday May 15, 11:30 am. (I also added a nice meme further down).
On Sunday, May 15, approximately 2am, Mark Kneitinger left ‘another’ comment on the amazon discussion thread, answering where I ‘laughed’ at him (I had commented LOL) and this great big grown up man says: “This last comment shows this critic’s emotional intelligence is at play again. Actually the most thought out statement they have made thus far!” — So as usual, we see another of Joan’s puppets, talking nonsense and even contradicting themselves!
Didn’t Mark himself say in comment #13 (on May 9, 2016) “ok I’m done with responses, it’s not productive.”? Then he comes right back and leaves an insult. Actually Mark, your last comment shows YOUR emotional intelligence – you are nothing but a bully and a browbeater. And as I said below, “Because sometimes some people are so ridiculous that all you can do IS laugh at them.” – well, I’m laughing again. See, I’m not mad, I’m laughing at this most ridiculous ‘grown’ man. So yeah, Mark, more responses WERE productive – your last response (even though you said you weren’t going to respond), shows me that I pegged you right – an anal-retentive bully – AND gave me a chuckle. heh, heh.
And by the way Mark, I put your last name in because it is publicly shown on amazon. You used your full name to insult me. And please grow up and accept the fact that there will be people in life that have an opposing viewpoint to your own. My viewpoint is that if Joan Mary Wheeler can write a book that has details of MY family, ME, and MY LIFE – and puts it all on display on public internet, then I have reserve the right to say in rebuttal – what I want about MY LIFE. Don’t like it Mark? Too bad. Grow up. I gave a respectful opposing viewpoint, to your review on amazon, but you couldn’t accept it. Then you accused me and Gert of “attacking” you, and then lied about it (“I’ve never been attacked on a review I’d written before.”) but you had not written a review – you hastily ‘reviewed’ the book on John Lennon to cover your tracks. So who is the child here Mark? You acted like the fool and got called out on it. Now be a man and suck it up.
So the other day, Sunday, May 8, 2016, a new review of Joan’s revision of her “truthful” book Forbidden Family appears on amazon – where Joan is peddling her lies. Gert McQueen and I put forth rebuttals and the new reviewer, a man named Mark K. decided that he didn’t like an opposing viewpoint.
I answered him, and so did Gert, and then he answered and it resulted in a most ridiculous display of petulance that I have ever seen from a supposedly grown man! — The entire exchange is below – Mr. K.’s review followed by comments numbered 1 to 15. Taken as a whole, in his comments his stand is that Joan’s faulty recollection/lying of MY life is to be considered canon. Excuse me? Since when does a strange man think it’s fine for someone to put out a lie about Ruth Pace and that lie is to be canon and true about me?
Also, it’s very interesting, that I caught him in a lie – in comment #3 – he says “This is the first time I have written a review that resulted in an attack!” – In comment #7, he tells Gert that he wrote a review of John Lennon’s work, and would she be more kind to him in her comments to that review.
Let’s talk about Mark’s reviews. On amazon, I clicked on his amazon profile – and he had only written TWO reviews for products on amazon. Joan’s book, and the book on John Lennon. Both reviews written and published on the same date, BUT the review for the John Lennon book was written AFTER he wrote the review for Joan’s book. The screenshot below this paragraph shows both his reviews, listed “newest entry first.” – That means his review for Joan’s book was first. But he said he had never been attacked for any reviews that he had written before!!! Well he hadn’t written any reviews before – at least not on amazon. AND – interesting point – he is NOT a verified amazon purchaser of either books. Which means he did NOT buy them from amazon. How do I know this? Amazon has a button you push to select all purchasers of an item, or amazon purchasers. Why is this relevant to this blog post? Mark didn’t buy Joan’s book from amazon, therefore, he bought it from (or was given it) by Joan herself. – AND he didn’t buy the John Lennon book from amazon either! He merely put that review up because he had that book in the past, and he wanted to make himself look like he’s done reviews on amazon. – But he forgot or didn’t know how amazon and/or the internet works.
In comment 13, he says a “counselor” recommended Joan’s book to him. Baloney! Because Mark says his own adopted child was seeking answers? When Joan’s book is filled with alcoholism, drug abuse, court cases between Joan and me, physcial abuse from Joan’s mother, screaming matches between Joan’s mother and Joan, fights, Joan describing near knock-down drag-out fights between me and her, her own self being battered by two boyfriends, a description of her being on a Greyhound bus in the late 70’s where she’s in pain and then says to the bus driver, “get me to a hospital, I’m peeing blood.” — A disgusting detailed description of a dead body – her own mother “the bandages that held everything that was rotted split open and the cancer dripped out of her vagina.” and an admission of Joan to driving while drunk. Screaming matches in bars, sceaming matches with her mother where her mother rips the phone out of the socket.
Somehow, I don’t think ANY counselor would recommend this book to be used for a child seeking answers about his adoption and how to cope with his adoption. Give me a break Mark!
My impression of Mark K. is – he is a bully, a browbeater. TWICE he threatened me and Gert with reporting us to amazon so that we would shut up. He wanted us to behave in a certain way. And he’s supposed to have a college degree in psychology? Where did he get his degree? From Romper Room?
Here’s the whole exchange – I included even my last comment to the fool, but a half-hour after I posted it, I deleted it, and replaced it with one final comment to the fool: LOL (laugh out loud)! Amazon went and deleted from their server my last mocking comment to the fool, but they did leave my laughing at him comment there. Because sometimes some people are so ridiculous that all you can do IS laugh at them.
Forbidden Family, a must read for the socially conscious and adoptees seeking truth!
By Mark K. on May 8, 2016
I finished Forbidden Family and was breathless. What a tough story to tell and yet done so well. I see this is the author’s first book (revised) and I was swayed by her openness to every detail, good and bad. This is the real deal, no stone goes unturned! This is a life story and a good one for adoptees to read. You pick up a book like this and think it’s a happy ending but Ms. Wheeler is correct in saying that in every aspect she was duped and I would say by the very foundations we hold sacred; the law, religion and family. I came upon this book as my son was adopted and although he never chose to see his biological father he did seek to find his siblings and for him short lived. In the end this is an autobiographical journey into the dangers of closed adoptions. The laws differ by state and country and in my opinion are wrong especially for medical and genetic data. We see the 50’s were a different time and one could walk away from a child with the “support” of others. We see the forbidden truth told to an adolescent girl and an epic journey of self discovery begins but laced with the sad reality that Ms. Wheeler journey is far from over. I think this book is canon in adoptee rights and legal forums and would recommend this book for social workers, the socially conscious and most importantly those “duped” by the system. I would like to read more from this author concerning her own or the adoptees legal fight to obtain their true identity. Again, well written and thought provoking!
1. gert mcqueen says:
Mark K. believes this book is a must read for the socially conscious and adoptees seeking truth? Really?? He also believes that this book is canon in adoptee rights and legal forums and would recommend this book for social workers?? Really??
There’s nothing in this book that could help any legal battle for adoptees’ rights and birth records nor help social workers; the author deleted 4 chapters that had ANY real information on those points. Nothing in this book will sway people away from adoption. The truth, as presented, is the author’s viewpoint slanted for her own propaganda that she was DUPED. The only people that were duped are members of two families and we can all figure out those reasons!
This revision is a self-published one because no other publisher will touch it, for it is NOT non-fiction. It is about real people and their lives, told by the author, who presents A FICTIONAL adaption! What this reviewer, Mark, thinks is the author’s openness to every detail good and bad, is actually totally FICTIONAL. That is why the story is TOUGH, because the author has written a FICTIONAL story, using all creative writing forms and her imagination about what she thinks happened or what she wants to happen, to tell HER story. The real people, whose family names are used so wantonly in this book, are the real victim here. If you want truth, don’t be DUPED with this book!
2. Ruth Pace says:
The reason this is a “revised” book and self-published on amazon, is because when the first edition of Forbidden Family came out, there were blatant lies in it. The author signed a contract with Trafford Publications stating that her “non-fiction” book was truthful and she held the copyright to the work and all its contents. On the back cover was a family photograph taken at least a year before the author was born. (actual date is not known, the author’s mother did appear to have a “full-size” belly, but the size of the child held in the author’s father’s arms appears to only have been 2 years of age. That child had turned 3 the summer of 1955, the year the author surmises the picture had been taken. There is no way the author has copyrights off a picture that was taken before she was born (and she admits it inside the book).
The other thing the author violated in the contract? – That her ‘non-fiction” book is truthful! I found many lies in it – particulary in regards to ME and MY LIFE. I still had actual police and court documents regarding 3 separate court cases of harassments that the author had performed against me – which proved the LIES contained in Forbidden Family. These documents were sent to Trafford Publications and their legal department determined that the author had indeed violated the contract that she signed. In May 2011, Trafford pulled the book from publication.
The author then proceeded to to “revise” a book that she herself had touted on the internet as the TRUTH. I have asked time and again, how can the TRUTH BE REVISED? It cannot. This new “revision” is not revised at all, except to change the wordings of certain things, adding new lies, and taking out 4 chapters – chapters that deal with adoption reform!
I realize that this reviewer does not have the 2009 edition of this ‘book’ to compare. But my blog contains many passages of the 2009 edition along with scanned copies of my documents. My blog Refuting a Book of Lies, Forbidden Family is the real ‘go-to’ source of finding the out how and what the author was duped about.
3. Mark K. says:
This is the first time I have written a review that resulted in an attack! Criticism is open ended and I respect that but I do not respect attack. Revisions are done for reasons and now that you stated those facts I can respect your views but it doesn’t change the story or what I got out of it which is insight. I read it as an autobiographical account of an adoptee and the struggles it involves as I needed to view things as my child sees it. I read the book for input and understanding, I think in this country censorshop is not dead! It’s a tough story and I understand that all families involved will not see things in the same light. The first argument was valid the other was abusive and I will report that. The author wrote a book and all biographers are not always seen in a good light. It doesn’t change the authors story as it’s ger recollection from interviewing the original sources, It’s her struggle too isn’t it? I wil ldebate any rational argument but not attacks. My comment stands, for people looking for a real life expreience of an adoptee who searched for her true self this is a great book. And yes anything that adds to tell an adoptee story of struggle should be considered canon especially after the last comments. I think any people that are seeking their biological family should read this book because it’s a struggle and know doubt I should read the 1st edition.
4. Ruth Pace says:
My comment was not an attack on you Mr. K. – As to your assumption that the author has the right to write her biography as she fits, well, I agree to that – EXCEPT when SLANDER and LIBEL are committed. Did you not see where I said ACTUAL POLICE AND COURT DOCUMENTS were used to refute ACTUAL LIES about me in the book?
When actual police and court documents refute LIES – than it is quite a different thing than other family members “will not see things in the same light.” And as to ‘recollections’ – sorry, again, the author’s ‘recollections’ are out and out lies – when she says her children were put on a witness stand to testify against me in my presence – that never happened. Absolutely never happened. The book states a “three month court battle,” – words slanted that makes the reader think a long drawn-out court battle with her children on the stand! Nope. We appeared on March 17, 1995 for the author’s arraignment. For a total of about 10 minutes in front of the judge. Case was adjourned to the following month. Where time restraints made the judge have to adjourn the case to the next month. That took about 5 minutes. When we reconvened the following month (May 1995), the judge didn’t want to be bothered with ‘battling sisters’ and dismissed my harassment charge saying “sisters should get along.” – So were we in court for 3 months? nope. There were three APPEARANCES – one in March, one in April and one in May – no 3 month court battle. If the author says she remembers a three month long court battle – I have to wonder what is going on in her brain.
So yes, Mr. K. ‘families involved will not see things in the same light,” however, when actual police and court documents bear out the facts, a family member when reminded of the documents (as I did via my blog and other internet sources) – somebody’s memory needs to be improved.
And sadly, people like yourself, will hear only one side, and never do the research, altho the proof is out there.
And what do you mean the author’s recollection is from interviewing the original sources? Tell me, Mr. K., do you know MY family, do you know the details of MY childhood? Where are you getting your information? Certainly not from ME, the original source – because I have never met you, therefore, what ever you think you know about MY life, you didn’t get it from the original source. Please do so, before you believe something about me. So you are saying that what the author writes about me should be considered canon – just because you are a personal friend of hers? Tell me, Mr. K. – what you know about me.
5. gert mcqueen says:
Mr K., sorry that you view counter arguments as an attack, personally I don’t see it! Censorship is not an issue here either! Yes, revisions are done for many reasons, but a TRUTH certainly does not need revisions! I do have to differ with you on the point about any author’s recollection versus the accurate facts.
Case in point, sir, is the author’s `recollection’ of someone else’s minor children and her retelling the story to FIT the author’s needs; that adoption is wrong because of birth certificates etc, blah blah blah. If you have read the book you no doubt know the author’s presentation of what `happened’ when her sister was `adopting’ her own flesh and blood child with second husband! Well everything that is in this book about that `episode’ and more about those children is false! There are documents to prove that the author VIOLATED someone else’s parental rights BECAUSE they choose to ADOPT and the author WARNED the parent that adoption was wrong! No sir, you really do need, for the sake of censorship and insights, to read other source materials about this book and the author!
As far as the first edition is concerned, it is no longer being printed, you must get a copy from the author if she still even recognizes that IT existed or I could loan you my copy!
6. Mark K. says:
No Ms. Pace you were not the one who attacked. Unlike some poeple I don’t use names in vain. You made a valid and rational argument and I see that this account was not good for you emotionally. Thanks for capitalizing I didn’t have to put on my glasses. I read the 2nd addition which should be void of your original complaints, correct? If the judge dismissed the allegations that would be indicative they held no weight one would think. A biographer interviews sources and I assume as sisters you have talked about your livesm if not then tell me you have never spoked with Ms. Wheeler about your life and I will recant my post. I will read your book if you publish one so I can get your perspective too. I read the book because I adopted and at one point wanted to seek out his birth relatives. There are deep wounds I get that, I read that and now I am experiencing it. I am sorry for your struggles but I did read the book was that okay?
7. Mark K. says:
Thank you Ms. McQueen for a nicely worded rebuttal and I will throw out your first rant. It is like I have written the book! My comments were based on reading a deep thought provoking book, her story not yours. There are two sides to the story as you rebut but to be fair to the author she has an opinion as well. Remember I chose to read her book not yours. Perhaps you should write a book on the realities of biological look-ups. It’s easy being an arm chair quarterback as in your case but I think you would reach more forums than Amazon and maybe you will sleep better knowing your side is being told and if you write it I promise to read it. I have written a review of a book on John Lennon please be kinder to that review as he is a personal hero.
8. gert mcqueen says:
Mark…I don’t know why you are being so…unreasonable… with a difference of opinion or actually being faced with certain facts that the author has neglected to inform her readers of, but rest assured that there is more to the story than what the author presents. Don’t be so naive to think that the author would actually ‘talk’ with the very people she maligned in this book. I have had 5 contacts with her in 30 years and still have had lies written about those 5 contacts. I have written more than `one’ book on this topic/book, a reasonable google search will provide you will enough information, I’m an open book, as they say. Do look me up!
9. Mark K. says:
Gert I will do my research and read your press, I stand behind what I say. I have to ask though if I had written I hated the book would it have generated such ire? To be completely fair, your sister seems to be the bigger person as she has not written to either of us to rebut or critique this review. All of the argument clinics take away from the fact that i read a book on a subject I needed to learn something about (adoptees seeking their bio families) and for that I got more than the price of admission especially now! It is a well written book would you at least ackolwedge that or is that asking for you to come to the dark side? I understand the pain but if you let it go wouldn’t be easier living your life than living for these reviews.
10. gert mcqueen says:
Mark…I still do not understand why you feel that my opinion, which is contrary to your own, is an attack or wrong to be voiced! If you hated the book I would point out even more reasons for not liking the book, for there are hundreds of reasons. The author will never speak to those whom she has maligned in the book…we have been there, done that, and we have the back-stabs to prove it (btw so do my innocent children)! No I’m sorry Mark, you don’t understand the pain! WE found her, we loved her, we wanted her and all everyone got was our characters assassinated. YOU want to learn about adoptees finding their birth families…well sometimes, you don’t know what you will find when you open that box. OUR family found out the hard way because we FOUND HER. Hope your finding is more pleasant and more productive. The author’s ONLY reason for writing the book is because she WANTS adoption ABOLISHED because HER life is a mess and she USES two families to prove her assessment that adoption made her as she is! Sorry I don’t buy that assessment and I hope you are smarter than that! Good night.
11. Mark K. says:
When all is said and done the only person who didn’t have say which is unfair and one sided is the author herself. In the end I got my money’s worth and themn some. I am sorry your family is dysfunctional over the book I shouldn’t have to apologize but I will. Don’t you think Ms. Wheeler is the person who was wronged in all of this. That is the theme of the book and the reason I read it. Abandonment brings pain. I mentioned John lennon before like your sister he was raised by someone else and was told as an adolescent who his mother really was. It created some fantastic music with the angst but it made for one one tortured soul who throughout his career sought love and respect. Please stop with the posts, I’ve read the book and it was worth the price of admission. Move on and good luck with your journey and healing! In closing I hope your retorts would not sway someone from reading this book, censorship’s a bad thing. Your point is well taken, she revivsed the book it is sold on Amazon and I own it so stop.
12. Ruth Pace says:
I have found that some people can’t take anybody disagreeing with them. They take an opposing viewpoint as a personal attack on them. I am reminded of a discussion just yesterday (Saturday, May 7, 2016) on facebook where someone was objecting to a political meme placed on a fan site of a well-known actor. I chimed in and said I thought the meme was funny, and she jumped on me and said it wasn’t funny and it was inappropriate to post. I said that in my opinion it was not inappropriate and the woman kept it up – until – and I was floored (and flattered) that the actor backed me up. lol. (Oh Captain, My Captain).
The fact that Ms. McQueen and I ‘have’ an opposing viewpoint of this book seems to rattle the author’s buddies. I stand by what I say, and back up Ms. McQueen’s statements. The book in question is NOT solely about the author’s life – she has included ME in the book and tells about MY marriages, MY job, MY LIFE. And I reserve the right and exercise my right to have the truth told about MY life. If someone has the right to write lies about me – then I have the right to tell the truth about myself. That is my civil right. And my civil rights are non-negotiable. End of discussion here. blogged it.
13 Mark K. says:
ok I’m done with responses, it’s not productive. You two definitely have an agenda and I want no part of it. I read a book wrote a review and want no part of a family civil war. Please be respectful of me and my post, I harbor no bad feelings for you or your sisters. Not that you need to know but if it helps your blog a counselor suggested the book when I asked about my child seeking answers. Please stop the spam. In writing one review I’ve been sent a Facebook request and rebuttals with no end in sight and it’s rather childish. I think the author is the only person showing any respect or she knows better than to post in this forum. Stop please or I will report you both to Amazon. Your points have been made I get it! You feel violated and you dislike your sister, just leave me out of it please and thank you.
14 Ruth Pace says:
Tags: dingbat-crazy, hypocrite, mental illness, stalking
Dingbat Dana Seilhan (screwy friend of Joan Mary Wheeler) is still stalking me
oh – so I looked at my blog stats yesterday afternoon – the 2 recent posts about Dana Seilhan had been viewed – and I looked at the other one – I had forgotten that I had left an email to Dana via her danaseilhan.com page – that means, Dana saw my email, took down the page, and has been STALKING my blog the past couple of days. hope she likes getting pie thrown in her crooked face.
It just totally amazes me how people bitch and moan about something, but are guilty of doing the same thing. Dingbat Dana purposely made an about me page, bitching about how the birthsisters (me and Gert) of Joan Wheeler were stalking her – but then turns around and stalks Gert’s about me page. – We know this because of the proof – Gert received a notice in her email that one Dana Seilhan had viewed her page and when Gert went to her aboutme page, there was Dana’s wacko face staring at her.
My blog stats showed that my posts about Dana were looked at, if memory serves, Thursday or Friday (a couple of days ago). Doing some double checking shows that Dana’s page – danaseilhan.com has been taken down (as I mentioned above). And now on Sunday afternoon, the Dana posts have been looked at again.
So, what we have here is hypocritical bitch – sees the email I sent her, comes running over to my blog (why are you stalking me Dana?) to see what’s going on. She backtracks by taking down her page – then waits a couple of days to see if I noticed it. Wow! Talk about a STALKER! I see that I have given her a very appropriate nickname: Dingbat Dana is completely accurate to descibe this wacko.
Joan Wheeler has a couple of new puppets to spy on me – Thomas Heath and Laura Stickney-Heath – roflmao! July 17, 2013Posted by Ruth in Having Fun with Disfunctionality.
So after throwing her chums Brian Maloney and Russell Thomas under the bus, Joan recruits a couple more idiot puppets.
An old post of mine “A Lesson in Life: Duplicitous People are All Around You – Trust Your Instincts. and – Joan Wheeler jumps at the chance to try to stick it to me the beginning of June 2010. July 23, 2010″
has been getting a few hits the past few days. And then this morning I got a notification from facebook that a Thomas Heath is now following me on facebook. “Interesting, I thought.” Thomas Heath is the husband of Laura Stickney-Heath, the person I wrote that blog post about three years ago.
And this is what I put on my facebook to answer this interesting development:
wtf? I just got a notification that I’m being followed by the husband of a former co-worker who stabbed in the back.
Stalking me now are you Laura via your husband’s fb account? tsk tsk, how grown up are we?
now go back and report to Joan that your mission has failed.
From Buffalo, New YorkMale
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace the games little girls play.
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace know this – I don’t fucking play games.
gee Laura and Thomas Heath must have a boring marriage and life that they have to stoop to stalking me and spying on me.
- Ruth Herr Sippel Pace having fun, are we Laura? good, little pisspots like you always fun spying on people. get the fuck out of my family’s business Laura and keep your peeping Tom husband Tom off my fb page.
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace roflmao at some people – Joan Wheeler is getting nervous about our court date next week – for her to answer criminal staling and harassment charges for falsely accusing me AGAIN to my job of computer fraud – this is the kind of shit you’re getting yourself into Laura – Joan broke the law and we go to court July 23, 2013. You wanna get involved in MY family’s business? I don’t think so – get the fuck out now and stay out. Or get sucked into a legal problem.
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace peeping Tom
Gert Mcqueen interesting!!! I’ve been wondering WHO has been reading the blog posts of late…every time and I mean EVERY time just before a court date…the stats go way UP…what do they expect to find? we only TELL THE TRUTH about Joan
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace with Brian and Russell having bailed on Joan – she went and found a new puppet. lol what an ass she and Laura are!
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace make that – what a pair of ASSES Joan and Laura are.
Know this – both Laura and Thomas Heath – you are in danger of being sucked into an ongoing criminal case. Is that what you seek?
oh, Little Laura – 3 years ago – got her little nose bent out of shape because I booted her off my fb page. Little girl went running to find my abusive sister Joan Wheeler and be fb friends with her. Why? So they can get together and gossip about me? lol. Joan wanted to spy on me and jumped at the chance to get to know someone who works with me.
I told Laura via my blog that she was sticking her nose into my family’s business and that Joan is a sick cookie.
FYI Laura: In November 2012, an anonymous letter was received by BGH telling them I am commiting computer fraud. I was investigated and found innocent (no surprise there, as I don’t do such things). In January 2013, on the website Huffington Post, Joan Wheeler publicly bragged to being the one who contacted my employer – with false accusations. I immediately marched downtown and filed criminal stalking and harassment charges against Joan.
The case has been delayed several times and we are scheduled to appear next Tuesday, July 23, 2013. Meanwhile, a temporary order of protection was granted to me in January for Joan to stay away from me and not to contact me via a third party.
If I am contacted by said third party – both Joan AND that third party will be prosecuted.
I do not know Thomas Heath. I never met him. I have not had contact with Laura Heath for three years. WHY is Thomas Heath now following me on fb?
Know this – both Laura and Thomas Heath – you are in danger of being sucked into an ongoing criminal case. Is that what you seek?
- Ruth Herr Sippel Pace by the way Laura – Joan’s lying book was pulled from publication because actual court documents and other documents were sent to the publisher that proved what I was saying all along – that Joan committed slander and libel against me. Because she lied to the publisher, the book was killed in May 2011, never to be published again. Guess you owe me an apology Laura.
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace I am making this publicly known about Thomas and Laura Heath – as they are now considered by me to be accomplices of Joan Wheeler, who twttered that she fantasized about blowing up buildings – and reported to Homeland Security and the FBI –
wonder if the Heaths will welcome a visit from the FBI?
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace oh and Laura – being a former employee of Kaleida – will put you in a bad light if you try similar shit against me. And considering how childish you acted when I booted you off my fb page – Kaleida will find it interesting that you are in cohoots with a known liar and criminal like Joan. Joan has a record of calling BGH to make trouble for me – from way back to 1994 and 1995. Do you and Joan not think that large corporations get stupid complaints from crackpots on a regular basis and know how to handle them? Kaleida’s legal department and HR has a file now on Joan – who harasses one of their employees – your name and your husband’s name can be added to the file.
about an hour ago ·
the goddess has given me the strength to bitch slap and witch slap those, in their jealousy and ignorant ways, have sought to put me down. – word – it ain’t gonna happen. It’s been tried before, never worked. Ruth, aka LadyMoondancer, aka Queen, is gonna steamroll all over them.
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace I have an appointment later today with my attorney – to go over my case against Joan Wheeler and prepare for next week’s court appearance. Perhaps I should inform him of Laura and Tom Heath’s getting involved in MY dam business. assholes.
This is the message I wrote when I reposted to my facebook the original blog post of three years ago:
this is the original blog post I wrote 3 years ago about a cow-worker, Laura Stickney-Heath, who after I booted her off my fb page, went running to my abusive sister Joan Wheeler – like a f’ing 10 year old! This post has gotten a few hits the past few days and now Laura’s husband Peeping Tom, is now following me on fb. Why? I’ve never met him. But now that he has stuck his nose into MY life, will be forever linked to me because of HIS actions. Welcome to the club of Joni’s Little Puppets!
Instead of waiting until later, I’ve done it now.
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace I’ll be making a new blog post – about this morning’s fb activities later on. Laura stuck her nose into my business 3 years ago, and is doing it again – she has earned a place on my blog. If she didn’t want to be, she should have stayed out of my life, my business and my family’s business.
Joan Wheeler is (unfortunately) MY sister – not yours Laura. YOU or your husband have no business in my life.
OMG! I was on amazon.com site! quick Joan Wheeler yell it from the rooftops and tattle-tale on me – Ruth the Horrible was on Amazon! April 21, 2013Posted by Ruth in Announcements and updates, Having Fun with Disfunctionality, Joan Wheeler Speak - how Joan views the world.
5 hours ago via Twitter
I just bought: ‘Star Trek The Next Generation – The Complete Third Season’ by Patrick Stewart via @amazon http://t.co/Sa9Cw9fwjZ
amazon.com 26 episodes on 7 discs: Evolution, The Ensigns of Command, The Survivors, Who Watches the Watchers, The Bonding, Booby Trap, The Enemy, The Price, The Vengeance Factor, The Defector, The Hunted, The High Ground, Deja Q, A Matter of Perspective, Yesterday’s Enterprise, The Offspring, Sins of the F…
Ruth Herr Sippel Pace oh gee wow! wonder if the Nameless One will start some more whining because I was at the amazon.com site. what an ass!
- Ruth Herr Sippel Pace I do have a credit account at amazon – and I will continue to use amazon for my DVD and MP3 needs – and write a review or rebut a review. If Joan Wheeler doesn’t like that – she can just stuff it.
the above was from my facebook – — back in November 2012, Joan Wheeler got her panties all bunched up because I dared to rebut a review of her stupid book – the one that got pulled from publication due to her lying about me in it. The book was pulled from publication in May 2011. A review for a book that is no longer available? Silly, silly. So as my right – I rebutted the review. The review was written by one of Joan’s adoptee buddies. She and Joan didn’t like the fact that me and Gert rebutted the review. So what was Joan’s solution to the problem? – go and write an anonymous letter to my employer and tattle tale on me that I was on amazon! BUT she LIED (oh, what else is new?) and said that I was using hospital computers to do it.
NO – I was at home when I did it. And my employer investigated the charge of computer fraud/misuse and found me innocent – because they track every key stroke I do. So Joan’s little plot to get me fired went boom in her face. But then two months later, she couldn’t stop yakking mouth, er, typing fingers, and bragged on The Huffington website that it was she who sent that lying letter to my job.
well – what did she accomplish? Let’s see. I’m still employed at the same place that I’ve been at for the past 40 plus years. I’m still shopping at amazon – and I filed harassment charges on Joan. Next court date is in July 2013 and there is currently a restraining order against Joan.
oh shoot – poor Joan – she can’t do ANYthing but stew about the fact that I bought something on amazon this morning.
Tags: file under: GET A GRIP
Joan Wheeler has many screen names. Legitimate Bastard, 1adoptee, kaykel, kmtona, and Half Orphan56. I don’t know why she needs so many screen names. Probably to keep the moderators and owners of the different websites she posts from quessing who she is as she spams them. She has been kicked off many sites because of her hate speech against adoption, adoptive parents and infertile people.
NOTE see updated info on end of this post
One time, I was answering her garbage on the Huffington Post and I was tired of typing out Half Orphan56, so I shortened it to HO.
OMG! I did the unthinkable! I used a texting abbreviation! lol, roflmao! lol
So what did this dingbat accuse me of? Right away, she runs to Adult Adoptees Advocating for Change forum and accuse me of calling her a whore!
Really now, she needs to put some thought into what her screen names should be. She recently went on a rampage – posting some crazy shit on Transracial Adoption about a date who said he was a horny bastard. Instead of making a post about/against adoption, she’s ranting about a guy she went on a date with who was swearing! OH? the word bastard is a swear word? Then why is she calling herself a (legitimate) BASTARD. So, she’s swearing at herself!
Get a grip there. As if Joan herself doesn’t swear! Once on that Adult Adoptees forum she was urging the members to come over to this blog and then complain to wordpress about my blog. “if enough of us complain, they will shut those fuckheads down.” – this is how she refers to her own flesh and blood – “fuckheads.” – but see, she doesn’t swear. no, she’s all pure lightness and good things only come out of her mouth. LOL LOL –
oh shit! I used another abbreviation!
But I am upset about something today. I want a HO-HO! – get your mind out of the gutter – I don’t want two whores. I want one of those delicious cakes from Hostess – but, sob, – Hostess is going out of business. There will be no more Twinkies, and won’t Joan be happy? – no more HO-HO’s – I’m sure Joan is thrilled there will be no more boxes of Ho-Ho’s staring her in the face when she goes grocery shopping. Because they stole that name from her – HO is the abbreviation of one of HER screen names – and how dare ANYbody use that term. After all, SHE can use the word bastard, but apparently nobody else can.
Let’s also kill Santa Claus. Because he routinely is calling Joan a whore when he laughs! “HO-HO-HO!”
I guess the pirates at sea were singing about whores when they were singing while they worked their ropes. Those dirty horny bastards!
Then we have this horrible thing from BBC: Yo-HO-Ahoy! Better go sue them Joan – the BBC called you a whore!
Too funny!! Well said Ruth
Unfortunately Joan’s sense of being insulted, if someone uses H.O. or even the shorter version of HO, isn’t limited to her. Her defender, Brian Maloney, who goes by the name of Champ, is also insulted, for her!!
For two people, HO and Champ, who have no qualms at insulting, browbeating and intimidating people, to GET worked up over such nonsense is just plain laughable!
Get a freaking grip already HO and Champ! better yet, get lost!
UPDATE Dec 2015; as older posts are being seen I’m (Gert) updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler says about me and family. After the first book was pulled from publication by the publisher, May 2011, she has ‘self-published’ yet again, her ‘story’, NOW called ‘duped by adoption’. There is NOTHING in it for adoption reform, for she is totally against adoption and her two families. To learn more see…
People who put out too much personal information on the public internet and then bitch when people see it – dey be LOSERS! November 24, 2012Posted by Ruth in Announcements and updates, Having Fun with Disfunctionality.
be sure to read to the bottom of this post, as I caught Heather/Without Origin in a big fat lie. – Liars – they are useless humans beings.
addendum – November 28, 2012 – oh my gosh! how silly. Ok – this whole thing got started because “someone” using a screen name of “Without Origin” left a review of Joan Wheeler’s libelous book on amazon.com’s UK site. Gert left a rebuttal review and Without Origin accused Gert of stalking her. She did this accusation on the UK site and then because we published the url addresses of our blogs, Without Origin came over here to our blogs and left a couple of messages. When she left those comments, she used an email address that said HeatherHolmes and the IP address came from the UK. Now when Joan’s book first came out in November 2009, a review by someone called HeatherUK was published on amazon.com’s United States site. On both reviews, three years apart, HeatherUK and Without Origin both say they were born in the US, but raised in the UK. When I addressed Without Origin as Heather, she wrote another comment saying we didn’t have her real name. – lol – I then googled HeatherUK and Heather Holmes and found that they are the same person. This is the lie that I caught Heather in. I exposed that lie on Sunday afternoon, November 25. Today, Wednesday, I wander over to the amazon.UK site and see that Without Origin amended her screen name – it now reads: “HeatherUK – without origin.”
By backtracking and adding her REAL name of HEATHER, she admits that she LIED in her comment to this blog when she said that when I called her HEATHER – I didn’t have her real name.
Just wanted to add that last bit of silliness to this whole silly affair. Silly people – they’re everywhere. And as the first Duke of Marlborough – Sir John Winston, ancestor of Winston Churchill (and builder of Blenham Palace) was fond of saying (300 years ago) – “silly, silly.” – Yes he was fond of saying that – we have the numerous letters that he and his wife Sarah wrote to each other. He was fond of laughing at silly people, and so am I. — Silly, silly.
In the discussion thread on amazon.uk Without origin started ranting and raving, accusing us, Gert in particular, of STALKING her. She then came back numerous times to post drama. One thing she let out was that her daughter’s school was in lockdown. – Which had WHAT to do with discussing Joan Wheeler’s book? So I wrote a blog post: The internet, social media and Twitter newsfeed and people getting all bent out of shape over nothing. geez! and said the following: someone this morning accused Gert and me of stalking her twitter account. We responded to a post she made. (not on Twitter). She used a screen name. We don’t know her real name. Gert said the other day, she THINKS she knows who the person is. But suspecting someone’s real name and actually knowing it are two different things. This person then started ranting that her daughter’s school was in lock-down. WELL I was sleeping this morning, went to bed at 8:10 am, after working 12 hours overnight. I woke up a little after 12 noon. Sorry, I had nothing to do with her daughter’s school being locked down. – I was busy snoring away! — I didn’t really read this person’s comments, just heard about it via email when I woke up. I’m not sure if this person thinks I did something to cause her child’s school to be locked down or was she just getting carried away with her keyboard. – There was just too much DRAMA there for me – especially since I had just woken up after only 4 hours sleep. And because there’s too much DRAMA and stuff that doesn’t concern me – I’m not even going to read all that stuff. Anyway, if she wasn’t accusing me or Gert of causing the lockdown – WHY IS SHE WRITING ABOUT IT? Especially in a post wherein she accuses us of stalking her! I’m not interested in this person’s daughter’s school, nor is Gert. We were not talking about this person’s daughter OR her school – we were talking about the lies contained in Joan Wheeler’s book! I don’t know this person, as of this morning, I didn’t know she HAD a daughter, didn’t know she was school-aged, didn’t know her school was in lockdown. – I was not talking about her daughter. SO WHY DID THIS PERSON TELL ME ABOUT HER DAUGHTER AND HER SCHOOL? It had NOTHING to do with the topic at hand: the lies about me contained in Joan Wheeler’s book. geez! some people! Think they are twitter cops, divulge personal information about their daughter, and themeselves and get their knickers in a knot because people are reading what they wrote. If that person didn’t want me to know they have a daughter, she sure did a good job keeping that information away from me. IF YA DIDN’T WANT ME TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER YA SHOULD’VE KEPT YOUR MOUTH SHUT.
so what does this idiot do TODAY? She writes this shit in a comment and GAVE OUT HER EMAIL ADDY WITH HER REAL NAME: Gert didn’t appear on twitter by chance, she actively ‘followed’ which is not by chance. I don’t know what she was looking for but hey, if you want to know when the kids’s school xmas fair is or that soccer practice is cancelled . . . v.strange behavior from someone who simpy didn’t like my book review.
lol – lol lol Heather, sweetie, I’m not interested in when the school xmas fair is – I’m not coming to England to see it, I don’t even have a passport. And I’m not going to spend 100 bucks for one. – Heather, YOU simply are not worth it. YOU are not interesting. YOU are not worth OUR time.
And no – it wasn’t your book review we didn’t like, it was THE BOOK! And since you placed a review of it on amazon’s United States site in December 2009, and again two years later – under a different name – you most certainly ARE Joan’s flunkie. “oh Joan, I wish I’d heard of you sooner – I stayed up all night to read this book.” yeah right – you read over 600 pages in one night! unless you skimmed thru it and DIDN’T CATCH THE CONTRADICTIONS THAT I POINTED OUT TO YOU ON PAGE 302. “I kept hoping things would turn out all right.” Really? You really read that trashy hate-filled book and thought things would turn out all right between Joan and her birth family – when every other page Joan is professing her HATE towards us?
For three years now, I’ve been wondering what kind of delusional person wrote that kind of stuff on a book review. Now I know. A delusional person who accuses people of doing things they haven’t done. Runs her mouth (fingers on keyboard) without thinking, goes off on wild tangents, accuses people of stalking her, yet gives out personal information to those very same people she accuses of stalking her.
What a dipshit!
Honey, chill – go make yourself a pot of tea and go figure out what shit you just did to yourself. And no – we don’t really care – because YOU SIMPLY ARE NOT INTERESTING. YOU SHOWED US YOU ARE NOT WORTH KNOWING.
As for stalking – my, my, my! The statistics of both my blog and Gert’s blog are showing many many hits from United Kingdom from yesterday and today. – thank you HeatherUK/Without Origin – you’re pushing our blogs up there in the ranks! By all means, keep “stalking” us – we don’t mind. That’s why our blogs are here – to be read! – so interesting. I wrote and posted this blog at 2:30 pm. I checked our stats at 12:30pm – 20 hits from United Kingdom, my post where Heather/Without Origin commented on had 10 hits. – checking just now – the hits from United Kingdom went up 4 points, the hits of the home page went up by 2 and the post where she commented on went up an additional 2. – This means she went to the home page twice, then clicked on my post looking for her comment twice, making the overall stats from the UK go up by a total of 4. So, who is stalking whom? Stalk, stalk, stalk, Whatcha looking for Heather? your comment? WHY are you so interested in US? WHY are we that important to you? WHY are so interested in what we are doing on our blog? Hey, I don’t care – read all want – but don’t be a hypocrite – which is what you are – because YOU are doing the very same thing YOU accused US of doing. – oh and Gert’s blog – 23 hits from United Kingdom. – stalk, stalk stalk.
And come visit me on facebook – the link is right there on my home page – have a nice day sweetie!
ha ha I knew HeatherUK/Without Origin would be back. She left the following three comments. And true to form with these types of bullies, she if following DARVO to a T. DARVO – Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim-Offender.
Comment 1:YOU simply are not worth it. YOU are not interesting. YOU are not worth OUR time.” That’s fantastic news so you’ll be ceasing with these histrionics now? I chose to review a book, and responded to your inappropriate actions and rantings
Comment 2: “yeah right – you read over 600 pages in one night!”. NO. You mis-quote. I actually said ‘I’m staying awake until 2am EACH night’ <<<not in ONE night I did not know Joan Wheeler and CHOSE to email her. No Flunkie, soz
Comment 3: GAVE OUT HER EMAIL ADDY WITH HER REAL NAME *Not my real name, actually* I am not the one causing ‘Drama’ You’re a nutter! 1. I sent one email to the author, which she chose to use in editorial review 2. I also chose to leave a book review this year. That does not constitute ‘Drama’ the dramatics are all your own
My response to this clear-cut case of a bully:
1. histrionics? Drama? Heather put out post after post on the discussion thread. WE were talking about the book. Heather brought her daughter and the lockdown at her daughter’s school. Why? I don’t know. Then today starts rambling about the school’s xmas fair and soccer practice. Why? talk about histrionics.
2. I responded to the book review by pointing out that the book was full of lies. The book was pulled from publication and I said WHY the book was pulled. Any book review of a book that is no longer in print should be accompanied with the announcement that it was pulled from publication and the reasons why it was pulled.
3. yes, I did mis-quote you. sorry, I’m only human. But we have your admission “I actually said…” so you have been caught in the act of reviewing the same book twice, using two different screen-names – this is misrepresentation.
4.Sounds like you’re a flunkie no matter how you whitewash it.
5. not your real name. okay fine, so maybe Heather is not your real name – maybe your real name is Abigail, or Elizabeth, or Bessie. The point is – you got your email listed as heather.holmes @ blahblah dot com. Are you Katie Holmes, recently divorced from Tom Cruise? or do you always make up fake emails? Whatever. I don’t care what your name is. And if we don’t know your name, how are we stalking you? You are not making any sense.
6. The drama is all on you – because you can’t keep to the subject: THE BOOK. What does your daughter, her school, the xmas fair or soccer practice have to do with the book, your reviewS, our reviews? NOTHING – ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
7. IN A FOURTH COMMENT (talk about stalking) this nutter sideswipes my charge of her actively coming to our blog by saying we plastered the url addy. Yes, we did publish it. HOWEVER, nobody FORCED this nutter to actively copy and paste the url addy (it did not get published as a clickable link) – so she ACTIVELY and PURPOSEFULLY CHOSE – of her own volition and free will – to come to our blogs. DARVO again!
Since you have nothing inteligent to say, your comments, your name, are being marked as spam and wordpress will now automatically put them where they rightly belong: in the trash.
holy shit! in the 4 minutes that it took me to add the paragraph about the blog stats showing 24 hits from United Kingdom – it went up to 25. Heather is really really stalking us – 25 hits from this morning. stalk stalk stalk stalk stalk stalk don’t you have something better to do with your time Heather? like taking care of your kids? but like a moth to the flame, you keep coming to my blog and stalk me. roflmao!
Since Ruth wrote this post I am NOT going to approve the current comments in waiting. But I do find it very interesting that this adoptee in UK read a book, wrote a review via email to the author and then wrote a second review years later.
When the author got the first review she included it on the author’s boiler-plate where the author placed another’s boiler-plate…those things are to improve the sales of a book…and then the author also included the boiler-plates that were on the physical book. This adoptee was USED by the author. And then the adoptee decided to write another review. Okay great, but in this case…adoption reform…NOT KNOWING THAT THE BOOK WAS LIBELOUS AND PULLED FROM PUBLICATION is no excuse. The has been dead since May 2011 If adoptees anywhere don’t know about it, I suggest they do their homework and find out about the book in question BEFORE WRITING A REVIEW.
That is WHAT CAUSED us to take action…because regardless of what Amazaon says…the book is dead!
Now I have said to this adoptee, on my own post, I believe it’s time for her to bow out of this…you have NOTHING to gain by continuing commenting to us…
We birth siblings will continue to expose Joan Wheeler and her libelous book and any other dirty deeds and words she has said…and it would be wise for EVERYONE to get the hell out of our way.
I replied to this adoptee’s review by saying that the book garbage and she replied by because she didn’t like my words. I then said, I stand by my position and review and THAT is what this adoptee SHOULD HAVE SAID AND BE GONE…now…be gone.
I have deleted the nutter’s comments and addressed them within the above blog post. Since she has nothing intelligent to say, I will say it for her: GOODBYE.
OMYGAWD! – TALK ABOUT STALKING! – As of this minute, 8:31pm, this blog has had a total of 97 hits. 68 – that’s SIXY-EIGHT from United Kingdom alone! 21 hits from the US, 4 from Canada, and 1 from Australia.
Geez, who is STALKING us from United Kingdom, just trying to splatter us with more comments. I don’t know the exact count from yesterday at the amazon site, but I placed about 3 comments, Gert about 3 comments – the rest – TWO PAGES of MULTIPLE comments were done by this HeatherUK/Without Origin! comment after comment after comment after comment after comment. And now she’s doing it here. – except I stopped her in her tracks. Talk about ranting and raving and histrionics! I feel sorry for her kids – She obviously has her priorities and her kids ain’t one of them. Her IMPORTANT thing for today is posting comment after comment after comment after comment on my blog and coming back to my blog all day long today (I’ve been checking the stats, and every few hours, the stats keep going up). What a nutter!
10:00pm and two more hits from her. omg, those poor kids of hers, mommy ain’t paying no attention to them for two days. For two days, all mommy can think of is going to Ruth and Gert’s blogs to see them. oh poor poor HeatherUK/without origin, she is without original thought. can only think of stalking Ruth’s blog. Poor baby, has no friends. no love-life, cos if it’s 10pm here, it’s 3am in the United Kingdom. And she’s been coming to my blog for hours and hours! roflmao!
I just received this in my private email:
Adoptee activists protest for birth-record access
July 22, 2009|By Jeff Gammage INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
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Adoptee activists protest for birth-record access
July 22, 2009|By Jeff Gammage INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
None of those groups were present yesterday – nor did they need to be. They’re winning the argument, noted adoptee Dan Haines of Egg Harbor. That forces adoptees to mount a state-by-state appeal to lawmakers that could go on forever.
And while that happens, he said, birth parents grow old and die.
That fact lends urgency to what adoptees call the nation’s last civil-rights battle.
“There’s no sane reason for us not to have the information,” said Heather Holmes, an adoptee who was born in New York and raised in England.
So Heather, we DO have your real name – stop trying to LIE. And no, you don’t have to worry about it – you’re not being stalked. I did say yesterday that you are not that interesting to us. And I stand by that. It’s just that my intuition told me you are a liar – and I just caught you in a lie. You forgot that what you put out on the internet STAYS on the internet – even 3 years down the line.
Heather may be trying to pull a fast one, seeing as she was adopted, and their names get changed, Heather Holmes is her REAL original birth name, as that is what she registered in the adoption registry under. Her legal adopted name is different. And we do not know that name. And we don’t care what it is. These playing games and lying just shows us and everybody else what a nutter she is.
And now Heather, now that I got you dead to rights – you can go. You are dismissed.
Tags: Blue Plague, Smurfs
Lord help us all – we’re going to be turned into Smurfs.
if it was only this…but…
there is something far worst, the real real Blue Plague…
for all the nut cases of angry adoptees that are tired of the way the US does business…
Joan once used a smilie icon (on the Adult Adoptees Advocating for Change forum)- “stirring the pot” when she was gloating that she was spamming a pro-adoption website. Here’s some good advice for you Joan. But I know you’re too stupid to heed this.
- 1. gertmcqueen –
Did she really think…no…no she didn’t think about the consequences of her lies BEFORE she spoke them in print and on the internet. No one gets the right to tell untruths about people and believe that they can get away with it. Once Joan published that book, she let herself open for all kinds of shit and all well deserved. She has no one to blame but her self and we birth siblings have only began!
- 2. Ruth –
so Joan likes to stir the pot. And she sure did stir the pot when she published that lying book and told lies about me and other family members.
We had peace and quiet for several years until YOU stirred the pot Joan. Now deal with the consequences of your actions. You stirred me up little girl.
Now that I’m stirred up you have to deal with what you unleashed.
Leave the dam pot alone next time little girl. If you’re not prepared to fight, then don’t stir it. And we see you can’t fight – you stirred things up with that filthy book but can’t stand up on your feet and defend your lying book. You get wacko after wacko to fight for you. – Rene, Mara, Lori, Heather, Myst, Susan, Russell, Brian.
and we’re still here, no matter how many idiots you send over here.
A short April Fool’s note to Joan Wheeler March 31, 2012Posted by Ruth in Having Fun with Disfunctionality.
While you were busy writing a lying book judging and condemning your birth sisters and others, a funny thing happened. Your little secret skeletons poured out. And this is no April Fools – it’s the Truth. Because we deal in Truth on this blog. And the only thing in our family that is forbidden is — you.
1. gertmcqueen –
too funny!! but oh SO TRUE
people who live in glass houses should NEVER throw stones
Joan’s house of cards….has fallen down!!
all that’s left to do is pick up her garbage and tell the world
oh for sure Gert – we ARE telling the world – that Joan Wheeler is NOT the Miss Goody-Two-Shoes, Squeeky Clean person she presents herself to be.
In a accusatory email she sent to me in January 2004 (which I have posted to this blog), she is accusing me of things I hadn’t done (so what else is new?) Then, without either one of us talking about papers in each other’s possession, she writes this line: “I don’t care how much paper you think you have against me.”
Well, Joan, it’s 8 years later. I’ll bet you’re caring now! Because those papers were the documented proof of YOUR harassments to me. Handwritten letters and envelopes from Joan herself to my husband and his mother trying to turn them against me. Copies of letters that Joan wrote to elected officials smearing my character. Actual court documents that was given to me when Joan and I went to court that prove that what she says in her book and online are LIES.
Yes, Joan, while you were writing lies, you forgot about all that paper that I had. And I’m sharing all that paper with the world. lol – I bet you care now.
CHRISTMAS CAROLS FOR THE DISTURBED – stop whining and take the time to laugh at yourself December 17, 2011Posted by Ruth in Having Fun with Disfunctionality.
Tags: harassment of an adoptee's birth family
the following didn’t show up as I had hoped. but it’s a cute little game. Perhaps Joan should play it and get her f’ing frustrations of life out in a healthy way instead of putting slanderous and filthy lies about her birth sisters all over the internet
<table border=”2″ cellpadding=”5″ cellspacing=”45″ bordercolor=”#8FB2CE” background=”http://virtual-bubblewrap.com/images/bubblebadgebg.jpg” bgcolor=”#FFFFFF”><tr> <td valign=”middle” bgcolor=”#FFFFFF”><p align=”center”><font color=”#FF0000″><b>I pop bubble wrap at 1.80 bubbles per second!</b></font></p> <p align=”center”><font color=”#0033CC”>I popped 196 bubbles in 1 minute and 48.8 seconds<br /> at <a href=”www.Virtual-Bubblewrap.com!http://www.virtual-bubblewrap.com”><b>www.Virtual-Bubblewrap.com</b></a>!<br />Can you beat my score?</font></p></td></tr></table>
PROVE TO ME THAT JOAN WHEELER DID NOT LIE ABOUT ME IN HER BOOK. Then I’ll take your comment seriously. January 3, 2011Posted by Ruth in Having Fun with Disfunctionality, mental illness.
excuse me, to the idiot who posted a comment filled with your own hate.
This book is NOT about Joan and her life – she has included details of MY life that have nothing to do with HER adoption. Also, she LIES in her book. She says in the book that she recieved an Order of Protection against me for one year – WRONG – it was for six months. She says I was placed under arrest – WRONG – I have never been arrested in my life.
If Joan wanted to write a book about her life, she certainly has that right. What she does NOT have the right to do is smear MY reputation in doing so.
If you don’t like this statement – too bad.
I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS MY LIFE. Again, if you don’t like it – too bad.
Read the top of my home page again pal. If a person has the freedom of speech to write a lie about me, I have the freedom of speech to write the truth. Don’t like that? Too bad.
As for you saying I am a hater – lol. what you wrote is hatefilled in itself and has been deleted, mostly unread. I only skimmed thru the first paragraph. Here’s a valuable lesson for you – when you complain about someone, please do not do the same thing you are complaining about. You complain that this blog is full of hate – well your comment was full of hate. So you are as “bad” as I am. And you think ANYone is going to take you seriously? oh grow up! The only thing you succeeded in doing is show me what a loser you are. Thank you for the good laugh. You are nothing to me. buh-bye hypocritical hater. and have a nice day. mwah!
ps. nice to have you back Russ! from Wilson New York, using his roadrunner account. found any babes on badoo yet? but soo romantic to Joan on fb in August. lol. ewww. yep – Joan siccing her boyfriend on us again. roflmao!
1. Ruth – January 4, 2011
I shake my head at knuckleheads who write in a complaint, but in their complaint, they are doing the very same thing that they are complaining about. Seems like they are desperately in need of some head shrinking or a flight provided by some flying monkeys.
To Rus – the fool October 5, 2010Posted by Ruth in Announcements and updates, Having Fun with Disfunctionality, mental illness.
Tags: delusional trolls, idiots, trolls acting like fools
This is the last time I am going to respond to the troll Rus –
you only see what you want to see – you say what you see on the front page of Joan’s blog was very nice – oh but you did not go to her cyberbullying page to see all the filth she has written about us – and for the remembrance of our mother’s death – she calls us fools.
Rus, you have a lot of nerve lecturing me and my sisters to rid ourselves of our negativity – but go and look at the garbage written by Joan – it is full of negativity – and dear Rus – YOU are one to talk about negativity – weren’t YOU the one who called me a bitch? Not only was that very negative, but it shows you for what you are – a hypocrite!
Your posts are marked as spam – you do not get any more attention – you are nothing. If you don’t like what is written on this blog – why are you here? If there is nothing but negativity here on this blog – why are you subjecting yourself to it all? What are you? A Masocist? Or you get your jollies from cat-fights? lol. Whatever – YOU don’t matter. YOU will not stop us. YOU don’t know what you are talking about – because YOU don’t have the courage to have an open mind and actually READ what we are blogging.
Myst said to put ourselves in Joan’s shoes – no, how about YOU people put yourselves in OUR shoes – Do you think we are making this stuff up? When I have scanned and posted actual court documents that prove that Joan is a liar? How can I make something up like that? Or when Joan says she has had no contact with us and I post PHOTOGRAPHS of us and her –
Rus, I think you are delusional. And you’re acting like a fool. oops, what’s the matter Rus? dont’ like being called a fool? Well neither do I. And yesterday, Joan said that, all the while pretending to honor my mother. And here’s the proof: a screenshot of her cyberbullying page, that I took just 20 minutes ago. And you are really the fool Rus for believing what Joan said last month that she wants to keep the peace. By calling us fools, she is NOT keeping the peace. Joan is a Master Manipulator and she is just pulling your strings. Not only are you a fool, but a little wooden puppet with sawdust for brains becaus you obviously are not thinking for yourself. well, doesn’t bother me anyway. lol I’m off to bed! have a nice day Rus!
There will be no more said on this matter. Spammers will be ignored because they have nothing intelligent to say. And no intelligence to research things before they post. That’s why they are called Trolls Acting Like Fools.
hiding behind other websites to view this blog – it’s either Joan Wheeler or her adoption buddies June 7, 2010Posted by Ruth in Having Fun with Disfunctionality.
oh sneaky sneaky.
I have a regular reader that comes here from other websites: tvrizzor, tv spot9, online paralegal degree and online psychology degree, digg.com. I also have a regular reader from their email inbox of hotmail and yahoo mail.
lol. Only DIRTY ROTTEN SNEAKS DO THAT. come on be honest, why are you hiding?
Oh, but in the past Joan accused ME of using multiple IP addresses to view her blog, until I researched it and found out – and informed Joan via this blog – that when your modem is shut off, the number changed AUTOMATICALLY. Of course it is too much to ask of whiny bitch Joan to APOLOGIZE when she has made a mistake. Like falsely accusing me of something yet again.
well, if you like the coward’s way of doing things, if you really feel the need to hide behind another website to view this blog, hey, that’s ok by me. You’re more than welcome to come back any time. See, I don’t view it as cyber-stalking at all.
So, come on in, set a spell. Read all you want. And ya’ll come back now, ya hear?
– Learning “Joan Wheeler Speak” May 25, 2010Posted by Ruth in Having Fun with Disfunctionality, Joan Wheeler Speak - how Joan views the world.
Tags: take time to laugh at yourself
Sisters Ruth and Gert had an email exchange today. Gert related a “critter story.”
1. Gert: Here’s a little critter story: we were in the garden when I felt something hit my pant leg and saw a very large frog had leaped over my leg and landed in the weeds near me. There is a creek in back of the garden, that’s why we get the frogs. So wanting to play with it I pulled off a tall grass and tried touching him to get him to move. He stayed put, the grass was too flimsy so I grabbed a piece of tall thicker clive with a flower head on it. The frog started to ‘fight’ the clive that was touching him. He snapped his mouth, reached with one of his front legs at it, not once but several times. D. said he never saw a frog do that. The frog kept fighting so I turned the piece around and lightly jabbed him with the flower head, it was small, but the frog snapped around it and started to chew! It was amazing! I pulled it out of his mouth and it was obvious that he didn’t like the taste. Finally D, push something at him and pointed him into the direction of the pond. I just love watching critters.
2. Ruth, who loves critters and hates to see them “jabbed” found a nice picture of Kermit the frog to emphasize that point and sent it off to Gert with the following caption:
YO! mcqueen, ya’ll betta stop jabbin’ my homies
3. Gert sends me these 2 insulting emails, blaming ME for her behavior at the library. Like it’s MY fault that she cackles like the Wicked Witch of the West! (sigh, she blames me for everything).
1. How many times do I have to tell you I am at the library and they will kick me out for laughing too loud!!!!
2. Oh… see Ruth what you made me Do!!! I sent it off before I was FINISHED, you are picking on me. I’m gona tell on you…don’t know to whom but I’m gona tell…. That’s my Joan impersonation
4. Ruth sends off this email: sigh, do I have to teach you EVERYTHING? If you want to do a Joan impersonation, you have to do this:
Ruth, I would appreciate it if you would NOT make fun of my interaction with a frog. The frog had leaped over my leg and violated MY civil rights in sitting in peace on the grass. I jabbed the frog because that was my right.
Now I have told you before that I am in the public library where silence is maintained. If you must send me emails, I demand that they NOT contain material that may make my laugh. If I get kicked out of the library, it will be YOUR fault.
When I get through this letter, I will be contacting my anti-frog friends and tell them that you are harassing me and interfering with my life. This will not be tolerated. Don’t pick on me because of who I am.
5. Gert then fires off the following email, in Joan Wheeler-speak: You don’t know everything! Just because I’m the oldest doesn’t mean you have the right to pick on me. don’t you know that I’m the authority figure besides I didn’t have the time, I couldn’t think, and no one listens to me and I didn’t what the library staff to get mad at me because then I’d go back into my inner life and get so depressed and I’m so confused as it is that didn’t know how to impersonate just right and you know how hard things are for me and the frog was the only friend I had that day and so I could do what ever I wanted to do to him and besides….
My friend, yes I have A friend!, my friend said and I quote ‘Loved the frog story.’ And I didn’t get that quote illegally, its the true, I don’t lie! so stop harassing me about my frog. Oh and I’m not going to tell the whole story to my friend, yes the one friend I have, I’m not going to tell her how you didn’t like my frog story and that you said mean horrible things to me and sent me a nasty picture of Kermit too!
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do you see what reading the book Forbidden Family has done to us? We can now speak Joan Wheeler Speak! And do you see how a little story of a frog getting jabbed with a piece of grass can get turned around into a huge ridiculous whine if Joan got hold of it.