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‘I understand people’s need for privacy.’ Says Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel. August 6, 2017

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Unfortunately that is FALSE! She is a liar, incapable of telling the truth about her families. Joan hasn’t a clue about anyone’s privacy, for she doesn’t care about others. It’s all about HER and HER privacy, while she fabricates lives about family members, for others, to promote her political agenda against adoption.

On a Facebook group page, Adoption Sucks, on July 10, 2017, someone asked a question; Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness?

The Facebook page’s link is…  https://www.facebook.com/groups/10484382277/

Now this particular Facebook page is a PUBLIC PAGE. Anyone who writes anything, on any public social media site or on a blog or a comment, anywhere, CANNOT expect privacy. Their postings, comments, likes etc. are OUT THERE for PUBLIC viewings. And of course the same goes for any printed book or e-book and as such is ALWAYS subject to PUBLIC scrutiny and discourse…

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Perhaps more adoption agencies should do this… August 3, 2017

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if they did, perhaps less of the hatred that some adoptees have that makes them think it is OK to harass others would be greatly reduced…we can only hope

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Doris Michol Sippel fka Joan Mary Wheeler engages in an unprovoked ATTACK on me and my family on the facebook page ADOPTION SUCKS. (what a nice grown-up name there). July 30, 2017

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I have been trying to write this blog post for a couple of weeks. I have been very busy with my life. But I was made aware, by a friend via private facebook message that Joan Mary Wheeler, now going by her new name of Doris Michol Sippel had left a comment to a thread on the “Adoption sucks” facepook page.   https://www.facebook.com/groups/10484382277/

also please see Gert’s follow up post here…

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2017/08/06/i-understand-peoples-need-for-privacy-says-joan-m-wheelerdoris-m-sippel/

The thread, started by Leslie Dann on July 10 at 3:26pm asked the question “Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness?”  — To which Joan/Doris answered with this comment:

“I have C-PTSD, depression, anxiety. My adoptive mother had several diagnosed mental illnesses for which I was treated in order to learn how to cope with her behavior. My adoptive father was her enabler. The rest of my adoptive father’s family (not all, thank goodness) all piled on the band wagon to emotionally abuse me after my reunion, so gang mentality increased my fear, anxiety, PTSD from their attacks. My natural blood family have undiagnosed mental illness, their attacks upon me are also responsible for my C-PTSD. “ 

Here is Leslie’s full comment: Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness? I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at age 19 after I went manic and saw hallucinations. I have been taking my medication for years, faithfully, but this past year I have been hospitalized three times for depression. I don’t know why except there are external factors, such as no support system and a job I’m just doing to get my pension. I told bfather about how I hadn’t been doing so well lately and he hasn’t answered my email. I think if you admit to being unhappy (even if you have a mental illness) they just don’t want to hear it. It upsets their adoption apple cart. Anyone else I would have told that to would have said that they were there to talk or reach out to. Bfather: silence. More disappointment. 

Leslie does not say anything to lead anyone to attack anyone. She (or he, as Leslie can be male or female), does say they had contacted their birthfather, but he hadn’t answered the email. Leslie says they were disappointed in their birthfather’s silence. However, Joan simply HAD to use the opportunity to ATTACK her birthfamily. She didn’t say she had been disappointed in her birthfamily, no, she ATTACKED us. AND her adoptive family. “The rest of my adoptive father’s family (not all, thank goodness) all piled on the band wagon to emotionally abuse me after my reunion, so gang mentality increased my fear, anxiety, PTSD from their attacks” – then she goes on to LIE about her birthfamily saying “My natural blood family have undiagnosed mental illness, their attacks upon me are also responsible for my C-PTSD.”

So, her entire birth family is mentally ill and are the cause for HER PTSD? –BULLSHIT.

So I left a post defending myself. And of course the adoptees went screwy because I stood up for myself and MY RIGHTS NOT TO BE LIED ABOUT. And of course, the adoptees can’t concieve that perhaps, one of their own is a lying asshole. of course not. I am sick of the bullshit “superiority” put forth by these assholes.  

The issue of my being an member of the group was brought up and the adoptees immediately took it that I follow Joan around the internet. Why yes, I do – that has been brought up on this blog many times – I FOLLOW JOAN/DORIS ON THE INTERNET TO SEE WHAT LIES SHE SAYS ABOUT ME AND MY FAMILY. And by the way, since Joan is blocked from me on facebook, I can’t see what she says. I was sent her message by a friend. I did not ask him to send it to me. It doesn’t matter HOW I saw her comment. It doesn’t matter WHERE I saw her comment. It doesn’t matter WHO alerted me to it. What matters is she took this thread as an opportunity to lob an UNPROVOKED ATTACK against me.  

Speaking of people alerting me to Joan/Doris’ activities on the internet, every few months I get UNSOLICITED private message via facebook of such. I also get friend requests from adoptees, yes, adoptees, who are sick of Joan/Doris and her bullshit. Here is the screenshot of one of them. AND if you look at the right hand side, I blocked out names and profile pics of people, but another person, did send me an observation about “JW”

 

 

Getting back to the “adoption sucks thread” Joan/Doris comes back on the thread and tries to justify HER lies about me AND states another lie about me — THAT I AM IN DENIAL ABOUT MY UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL ILLNESS: 

Doris Michol Sippel In case you all are wondering where I’ve been…I’ve been quietly living my life today. Breakfast, laundry, church, lunch with a friend, grocery shopping, answered long distance phone call, prepared for work tomorrow, went to an outdoor concert, came back to this. Yes, I long ago blocked Ruthie and Gert so I cannot see their comments. All I see are the words of others talking to Ruth. Imagine being found at age 18 in 1974 by these weird women! I was in my senior year of high school, got enmeshed in their problems, got swept up in everyone’s anger at me, so I lashed back, until I sought therapy. I still cannot understand why we all have made it clear many decades ago that we want nothing to do with each other – and they still hunt me down. I do nothing to them.They attack other adoptees. …Ruth is 63 or 64, Gert is 70. I am 61. You see the content of my writing. Who has mental illness? Who admits to struggling? Me. As Daryl Bergmann said, NOT ME. Who is in denial? July 17 at 12:05am

Really now, Joan/Doris is proud of herself to admitting to being mentally ill, and calls on me to do the same. — oh, but didn’t she say in her first comment that I have an UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL ILLNESS? um, how can I admit to something that is undiagnosed????????????? ahhhh, the stupid, it burns, it burns!!!!?? this is just like Trump saying there was no Russian involvement, but Obama was in the wrong for not going after the Russians for their non-involvement. Joan/Doris shows us her own mental illness (just like Trump) with her non-sensical statement. 

Then Joan asks the adoptees if one of them can copy and paste what I wrote and send it to her. Um, but – the adoptees were bitching when I was sent a copy of paste of what Joan wrote about me. But it’s perfectly allright for them to copy and paste what I wrote. Double standard here as usual. One of the adoptees ask a question about Joan’s request:

Laurel Jenkins-Crowe I hope it’s OK for me to put in that I for one would like to know what would be done with that document. Could it be anonymized?

Doris Michol Sippel Laurel Jenkins-Crowe Not at all. I understand people’s need for privacy. 

SHE UNDERSTANDS PEOPLE’S NEED FOR PRIVACY???? REALLY? WHERE THE FUCK IS MY PRIVACY JOAN/DORIS?

The administrator of the group, Daryl Bergman, a buddy of Joan/Doris points out that Joan/Doris had not named me in her “diagnosing me and my family with a undiagnosed mental illness” : — however that point is moot. Joan/Doris has named me all over her website, has named my parents in her libelous book, has photographs of my parents in her book and on her website. I have no privacy.

Here is the full text of all comments:

Leslie Dann — Is there anyone else on here who has a diagnosed mental illness? I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at age 19 after I went manic and saw hallucinations. I have been taking my medication for years, faithfully, but this past year I have been hospitalized three times for depression. I don’t know why except there are external factors, such as no support system and a job I’m just doing to get my pension. I told bfather about how I hadn’t been doing so well lately and he hasn’t answered my email. I think if you admit to being unhappy (even if you have a mental illness) they just don’t want to hear it. It upsets their adoption apple cart. Anyone else I would have told that to would have said that they were there to talk or reach out to. Bfather: silence. More disappointment. – July 10 3:26pm

Doris Michol Sippel I have C-PTSD, depression, anxiety. My adoptive mother had several diagnosed mental illnesses for which I was treated in order to learn how to cope with her behavior. My adoptive father was her enabler. The rest of my adoptive father’s family (not all, thank goodness) all piled on the band wagon to emotionally abuse me after my reunion, so gang mentality increased my fear, anxiety, PTSD from their attacks. My natural blood family have undiagnosed mental illness, their attacks upon me are also responsible for my C-PTSD. July 16, 2017

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace I am Ruth Sippel Pace – birth sister of Doris Michol Sippel – I do not have any mental illness. I recently retired from a 43 year career as a Patient Care Assistant at a large metropolitan general hospital.

 During those 43 years, I worked on several med-surg nursing units, 4 years in the Medical Intensive Care Unit, 5 years in our Hospice Unit, several years in the Renal Transplant Unit.

 In 1995, I worked on a committee and won an award for my work on that committee – Finding New Solutions to Delivering Patient Care. I also worked several months in the Emergency Dept. in 2014.

 In 2003, between my husband and myself, we suffered the loss of six family members between July and Oct. – In Sept. 2003, my husband had open heart surgery, two weeks later, I was injured at work. I was very stressed out and one day I was reduced to a sobbing mess. I called my doctor immediately, and she had me come in the next day, whereupon she recommended I see a counselor – which I did.

I spoke with the counselor. He said there was nothing wrong with me – outside of experiencing extreme stress.

 In 1997, under the guidance of the Newburgh Coalition of Block Clubs, I organized and headed up a block club on my street. At that time I developed a ‘working’ relationship with my city district’s common council member, who to this day, remains a personal friend and supporter of my work to better my street and surrounding neighborhood.

 In 1994-95, almost daily phone calls to several departments all over the hospital for six months were placed to my employer with lies to get me fired — by Doris Michol Sippel. These calls were because at one time a patient whose name was similar to hers, got mixed up with Doris’ bill.

 I have never worked in hospital billing department – I have worked NIGHT SHIFT 11pm-7am on patient care nursing units.

 There was a meeting by hospital administration that no one was to accept any phone call from Doris.

 In 2012, she did it again, accusing me of computer fraud on my employer’s computer. My employer can (and did) trace EVERY KEYSTROKE I DID. —- I WAS EXONERATED. Who in their right mind calls someone else’s place employment over the span of almost 20 years with lies to get them fired?

Yes, we see Doris’s self-admission of mental illness.

And her self-diagnosis of ME is bordering on slander and libel, which she also was guilty of when she called my job AND published lies about me in her “autobiography” — to which I had actual police and court documents sent to her publisher. That publisher, Trafford, had their legal team go through the court documents I sent them and those official documents did not jive with the stories in her book that Doris attested were true and factual. The result? Her book was pulled from publication.

I have never been arrested, served time, served probation, yet Doris goes around saying I have. I have never taken drugs, drink only rarely.

I held down a very good job for 43 years. I am a homeowner, I had a brief fun career as a professional belly dancer in the 1980’s-90’s. I have had several people urge me to enter local politics.

I have been with my husband for 31 happy years. Yes, we have had problems, we go with the flow. Before that, I was in a domestic relationship with another good man for 10 years.

Ask yourselves — this thread is about self-confessions, NOT ATTACKS ON OTHER PEOPLE.

WHY is Doris attacking me and my other two older sisters? Because — when our mother died and for whatever reason my father relinquished her for adoption – DORIS IS BITTERLY JEALOUS THAT SHE WAS GIVEN UP FOR ADOPTION AND WE WEREN’T.

I was 3 years old when my mother died and Doris was given to adoption. My sisters were also children – 8 and 9. WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

In 1974, we were reunited with her, but within 6 years, we could see Doris’ anti-social behaviors and one by one, members of her birth family told her to leave them alone. In 1989 Doris stole almost $700.00 from me and I too told her to hit the road. And she has spent the last 28 years punishing me for that with revenge tactics, harassments, false police reports.

When her book came out in 2009, I started a blog to refute the many lies about me and my family in that book. The past couple of years, I have not done much on the blog – but Doris will NOT leave me alone — I come to this website because as the birthsister of an adoptee, I do have a connection to adoption. I come to learn. (isn’t that what adoptees always say they want us to do?) — I rarely comment, I’m not here to make trouble — but what the hell is this?

Why can’t Doris speak her contributions to this thread WITHOUT DRAGGING ME INTO AND ACCUSING ME OF HAVING A MENTAL ILLNESS?

 I want the adminstrator of this page to remove that slanderous and libelous comment that tells people that I have an undiagnosed mental illness! — If it is undiagnosed, HOW DOES DORIS KNOW I HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS?

DORIS IS NOT A LICENSED MEDICAL DOCTOR, A PSYCHIATRIST, NEVER WENT TO MED SCHOOL —

STOP ENABLING THIS KIND OF NONSENSE.

Use your brains and logic people — IF I HAVE AN ‘UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL ILLNESS’ — how does Doris KNOW I have a mental illness????? Again, I ask you — where is her medical degree? Where is her proof of such? Can she provide absolute proof of anything she says about me? NO. – I can, and I HAVE provided proof of her various harassments of me throughout the years – scanned documents that are on my blog. Letters written to me by her — and their envelopes, with dates, her signature, despite her attesting in her book on the internet that “I HAVE HAD NO CONTACT WITH MY BIRTHSISTERS FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.” — 40 years takes us back to 1977 — hmm, I must have dreamed I was one of her bridesmaids in 1983. ps – now that I’m retired, I am a Paranormal Investigator — I hunt ghosts. If that makes me mentally ill, well then so be it. I’m happy and busy living my life – Doris is a bitter woman. screw her. I’m having fun.

Nicole Haun — Me thinks she protests too much

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace — experience almost 30 years of undeserved harassment and see how you like it my dear.

Nicole Haun — Depends on what you call undeserved…

Nicole Haun — Considering you joined this group and you followed her here to harass her, I’d say she’s getting the short end of the stick.

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace — as usual, the bully gets believed, and the bully’s victim is quashed, for daring to speak up. Ms. Haun – you are one of those adoptees who take blindly the word of someone simply because they are adopted – non-adoptees like me, our story is never taken seriously –

I didn’t follow her here – she has blocked me from facebook – I can’t see her comment – a friend of mine saw it, copied and pasted it and sent it to me via fb messanger – that’s how I know about it.

 but yeah, I know of the famous feud – and again — adotpees will take the side of the adoptee (Joan/Doris) and believe her in anything she says about me — simply because she says so. — as I said, on my blog – I have scanned police documents, and scans of harassing letters she sent to me, despite her saying on the internet – her website – that she hasn’t sent me anything. — in a court of law, all evidence must be examined – to see the whole truth — you don’t want to know the truth — because it would show that >gasp< an adoptee was lying.

 eh, my story isn’t worth anything, I’m not adopted, so of course – you dismiss me. I don’t have the right to defend myself or speak the truth of my own life.. so be it. have a nice day Ms. Haun.

Nicole Haun — so you have people following her? You have a blog that publicly harasses her? Sounds like you’re perfectly normal. (That’s sarcasm in case you’ve missed it) 

Daryl Bergmann — That profile has been removed. I’m sure she’ll be back with a sock puppet profile, a problem in any public group.

Nicole Haun — Daryl Bergmann so sad

Daryl Bergmann — Yeah. Doris doesn’t mention a name. Then boom, immediately on the defense to deny any form of mental illness pops up Ruth with a prepared novel for that exact purpose. Says a lot. Far more than intended. Adoption really does suck.

Daryl Bergmann — Believe whatever you want, but when the picture always looks like this…. Joe: There’s mental illness in my family. Jim: NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME NOT ME

Jack (knows nothing about past): Pardon?

Jim: There you go taking his side! You always do that! You and everyone like you!! Joe lies!!! He’s the crazy one!!! NOT ME!!!

Jack: Ooooookay then.

Daryl Bergmann — I’m sure all members will come to their own conclusions on this after reading the three previous comments and replies. I don’t feel investigating the paranormal makes one mentally ill. The viciousness and extent of the replies tend to, though. A real “Chuck McGill” moment, if you’re a “Better Call Saul” fan. Not even time will heal those wounds.

Doris Michol Sippel — In case you all are wondering where I’ve been…I’ve been quietly living my life today. Breakfast, laundry, church, lunch with a friend, grocery shopping, answered long distance phone call, prepared for work tomorrow, went to an outdoor concert, came back to this. Yes, I long ago blocked Ruthie and Gert so I cannot see their comments. All I see are the words of others talking to Ruth. Imagine being found at age 18 in 1974 by these weird women! I was in my senior year of high school, got enmeshed in their problems, got swept up in everyone’s anger at me, so I lashed back, until I sought therapy. I still cannot understand why we all have made it clear many decades ago that we want nothing to do with each other – and they still hunt me down. I do nothing to them.They attack other adoptees. …Ruth is 63 or 64, Gert is 70. I am 61. You see the content of my writing. Who has mental illness? Who admits to struggling? Me. As Daryl Bergmann said, NOT ME. Who is in denial? July 17 at 12:05am

Doris Michol Sippel — Can anyone copy and paste all comments, including Ruth’s comments, in a Word doc and email the whole thread to me? dorismicholsippel@gmail.com … Thank you.July 17 at 12:07am 

Laurel Jenkins-Crowe I hope it’s OK for me to put in that I for one would like to know what would be done with that document. Could it be anonymized?  July 17 at 7:48am

Doris Michol Sippel I’d like a full account of what Ruth wrote. Yes, it could be anonymized. And, someone already copied it for me. Thank you. I’m sorry my adoption peeps have to see this harassment. I don’t see why my life is such an obsession with Ruth and Gert. 

July 17 at 5:38pm —Laurel Jenkins-Crowe Thank you! I’m glad the request wasn’t offensive.

July 17 at 6:09pmDoris Michol Sippel Laurel Jenkins-Crowe Not at all. I understand people’s need for privacy.

Joan/Doris is just a liar! July 6, 2017

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https://gertmcqueen.wordpress.com/2017/07/06/joan-m-wheelerdoris-m-sippel-continues-to-lie-about-what-really-happened-as-to-her-being-placed-into-adoption/

Dead people can’t and don’t speak! But Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel continues to exploit our DEAD mother and father! July 1, 2017

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more BS crap from the idiot child who can’t allow our parents to RIP

duped by adoption & an woman's Struggle for Identity, a book study

This crap, of Joan/Doris, is just like ‘what would Jesus say’! Attempting to get a sympathy vote, a ‘oh poor me’ attitude, a cop-out from reality and stupidity.

This isn’t the first time that Joan/Doris has done this…only this time she is using both our parents as a means to influence politicians and law-makers.

If Joan/Doris really BELIEVES in wanting to have her BIRTH parents legally RECOGNIZED on her birth certificate, why did she go and write THREE lying books about our parents? Why did she put in PRINT what she DID to our father and portray him negativity, over and over again? Why did she put in PRINT lies about our mother’s medical conditions? Why did she put in PRINT lies about her birth siblings and extended family members?

Both our parents are DEAD and will NEVER speak to their children again. Knowing Joan/Doris is an atheist, she doesn’t…

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100 posts! WOW June 9, 2017

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Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel has come out of her depressive state & gone right into her manic state! She is really foaming at the mouth! May 4, 2017

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Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

She is a stalker, harasser, bully, browbeater and an all-round sicko nut case! She does NOT understand that her tactics actually are HATE speech. She does NOT engage the other in a common ground learning setting where each opposite view point COULD learn from the other. No, what she does is a form of hate speech. Her view is the ONLY ONE acceptable to her.

In this sharing of (J/D) Joan/Doris’s blog post I am taking OUT identification references; there’s no reason for these actions of J/D. She goes OUT of her way to find PRO-ADOPTION people just to BEAT them up! Unfortunately, I know that some have the ways and means to find the original; I just can’t fix or prevent that! People, use your common sense and decency! WHY, why do you ALLOW Joan/Doris to speak to people in the way she does? If you do, you obviously…

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Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel is a TERRORIST May 3, 2017

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everyone needs to know

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She targets pro-adoption people. She stirs the flames of hate against them. She rallies others to share personal information about those she has bullied, stalked, harassed and intimidated.  She has done this many times and I have DOCUMENTED them here on our blogs. I shall continue to do so.

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It’s bad enough when someone hates their own life because of something and engages in various forms of self-harm, but when that same person goes out of their way to destroy others, year after year, that hatred becomes very DANGEROUS.

Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel is a very dangerous person! She’s not alone, for sure, BUT because she has diagnosed mental conditions she is USED and ENCOURAGED by others that have some kind of self-control and wouldn’t think of acting out. Joan/Doris has NO SELF CONTROL; her hate is the only emotion that keeps her alive!…

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eight signs of narcissistic behaviors; Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel has them February 24, 2017

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learn these traits, think about them when you read anything that she writes, it will save you a lot of grief

https://www.powerofpositivity.com/8-signs-narcissist/

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A call to Doris Michol Sippel fka Joan Mary Wheeler to step up to the plate and use her activism skills for something worthwhile. February 12, 2017

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Now this is something I would like Doris Michol Sippel fka Joan Mary Wheeler to tackle. Instead of her incredibly futile desire of abolishing the institution of adoption worldwide, THIS is something she has spoken out against – and in this thing – I can stand with her. — philosophically that is.

Joan/Doris, I KNOW you read my blog – so put your ‘expert activism’ to use now.

The orange chimp in the White House and all the other idiots like this Senator Joe Hensley of Tennessee that proposed a bell that deems children conceived by artificial insemination to be illegitimate, need to be stopped. 

The link here takes you to a news report on this. 

Proposed bill deems children born through artificial insemination illegitimate children

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1. gertmcqueen – February 13, 2017

 yep this is right up her alley…so perhaps she ought to take up that flag and rally her troops to stop such a horrible thing! oh but wait… as long as the birth certificate isn’t falsified or the child is adopted she couldn’t care in the least! Nope this isn’t anything she’d spent her life on…she’d rather continue to publish lies about her…OUR…family.

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Ruth – February 13, 2017

 “as long as the birth certificate isn’t falsified or the child is adopted she couldn’t care in the least!”

ABSOLUTELY TRUE – she didn’t even give two shits about her own two kids – her selfish self simply HAD to go see the Monkees in concert in September 1986 (even though she had already seen the concert at a different venue in July 1986) – she was 8 months pregnant with a toddler at home.

Two weeks after the concert, she’s calling me on the phone whining her electricity was getting cut off for non-payment.

Now they don’t come and shut off your electricity for missing one or two months payments – you must not be paying it for at least 4 months before they get that mad at you — so you mean to tell me she didn’t pay her electricity for about 4 months – but was able to find money to attend TWO ROCK CONCERTS?

SO MUCH FOR JOAN/DORIS caring for her own children – her children weren’t adopted, and their birth certificates weren’t ‘falsified’ – so fuck ’em!

Doris Michol Sippel aka Joan Mary Wheeler just CAN’T keep her mouth shut about me. She gets shot down on Huffington Post, and brings me into it – even tho I was OUT of it (Jan, 2017). February 11, 2017

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I have been meaning to put up this blog post for a month now. But life keeps getting in the way. Wierd how that works. lol. This is about Joan/Doris browbeating people, as usual, who have a different viewpoint than her. In this case, a simple article about human breast milk turns into Joan putting down adoptive mothers (her favorite past time because she has no life other than heaping hate onto adopters and adoption), flinging mud at people, and getting the mud flung right back at her, and then frigging DRAGGING ME INTO IT.  

I had seen the preview to this article when a Facebook friend of mine shared it. I glanced at the article, didn’t bother to comment on it. Gert looked at the article and comments and noticed one comment by Cathy D. that said basically that Joan was wrong and countered Joan’s claim that adoptive moms who breastfeed their adoptive children (if they are able to) are abusing the babies and commented that Joan does not know what abuse is. Gert answered Cathy, another commenter disagreed with Joan, and Joan was off and running – trashing Cathy D. and Ramona J. (the second commenter), Gert, and by extension ME. — Joan said “And, if there are any comments here from my sisters ( they are blocked from my Facebook but I can guess they are still cyber stalking me) I can assure you that they are guilty of many abuses upon me and my adoptive mother, and my children. ” — Take note how she types sister(S) – plural, when only ONE sister (Gert) had commented, and then notice how she goes out of her way to say she can’t see OUR comments, because she has blocked us, and then proceeds to tell LIES about us again. I’d like to know what abuses I heaped on her mother and kids. As to anything I wrote to or about her, was in answer to the abuses she has done to me! But this post is not about all that – it’s that I’d like to know WHY Joan went out of her way to mention us. — But I already know the answer to that question — we CAN see each other comments on Huffington Post AND Gert and I DO see Joan’s Facebook posts because sometimes people will take screenshots and send them to us via Facebook private message. 

So, if Gert and I can SEE Joan’s activity, Joan can see US. And she SAW Gert’s comment – because otherwise, she wouldn’t have brought us into the conversation – IF she hadn’t seen Gert’s comment, she would have kept the mud-slinging to Cathy D. and Ramona J. – AND she ONLY saw Gert’s comment – not anything from ME, because — I HAD NOT WRITTEN A COMMENT. — So WHY the sister(S) plural? Because Joan WANTS me in her life. Despite always saying on the internet she wants me OUT of it. 

She has not mentioned us online in a looooonnnngggg time. She must be getting lonely. We have noticed, that when Joan is ill, breaks up with her boyfriend-of-the-month, something goes wrong in her life (usually of her own doing), she gets going on the internet and says something she knows we will see. We have made her aware that we MONITOR (she calls it cyber-stalking), but we MONITOR what she says BECAUSE OF THIS HERE BULLSHIT. She can’t keep her fucking mouth SHUT about us.  

Her latest act of self-sabotage was on November 26, 2016, when she appeared at her very first book-signing event as an author. A local history museum sponsored a group book-signing event for new/up-and-coming authors. Joan, striving to become a ‘noted author,’ gets into an argument with the lady next to her and began SCREAMING at the woman, because the woman used “wrong adoption terminology.” At a public event, JOAN IS SCREAMING AT SOMEONE. — Then Joan takes it two notches higher (or rather lower, since she is a low-life, and she always engages in underhanded shit) – she posts on December 1, 2016 on Facebook of how PROUD she is that she VERBALLY ABUSED this woman (but reports that her sisters ‘abuse’ her) and then publicizes the woman’s contact info and commands other wacko adoptees to CYBER-STALK and otherwise stalk the woman (but bitches when (?) her sisters cyber stalk her). My guess is that Joan KNOWS she shot herself in the foot by acting like an asshole at the book-signing event, and turned people against her, and had ‘gone into herself’ again. (she does that when she is in the depressive state of her bi-polarism). And then decided she wanted contact with her birth siblings again. (and we have noticed that this is what she does when she goes depressive – she starts talking about us). She desperately WANTS us in her life. AND because — she only saw ONE comment from ONE birth sister – Gert, and ONLY Gert, she decided to pluralize it – to DRAG ME INTO IT. And I responded as I always do – throw the mud right back at her.  

So here is the entire comment exchange and the link to the webpage: 

Joan’s first comment: commenting as her birth name Doris Michol Sippel

Doris Michol Sippel · Owner-operator at Self-Employed A quote from the article: “ ‘As I was reading an article about how breast milk carries up to a million white blood cells in one drop, my mom was already looking at her blood, so I asked if we could see the white blood cells in my milk while she had the microscope on,’ she recalled.” 

Nature intended mothers to breastfeed their own babies. But, all-to-eager and misguided adoptive “mothers” have convinced doctors to build a breastfeeding apparatus that straps onto the woman, with a bag of milk or formula attached to a tube which is placed near the nipple so that the infant she adopted from the real mother can suckle. The action of suckling, combined with drugs the woman takes to artificially stimulate her mammary glands to produce milk, eventually begins to produce milk. Thus, an adopter can breastfeed the newborn.  

To adopters, this is great! Photos have been plastered all over the internet by bragging adopters about this wonderful invention. 

From the baby’s perspective, however, this is deception. The baby is fed artificially produced milk from a mother who is not the biological mother. So there are no correct antibodies, no natural white blood cells in this milk. This is a form of sexual abuse, child abuse, and medical malpractice. 

What other microscopic bits are passed on through breastmilk? Can artificially produced breastmilk from a non-biologiocal mother harm an infant?  

Perhaps it is time to ask the medical profession to protect infants from this forced abuse. 

I am an adopted person who has researched adoption since 1974. Many other adopted individuals are also repulsed by adopters who think they can fulfill a biological role that only the real mother can fulfil. (sic) 

Thank you for posting this as a reality wake up call to those who think they can imitate nature. 

Jan 9, 2017 8:16pm

Cathy D.· Owner-operator at You design      …Abuse? I think you might need to look up the definition of “abuse.” You do realize that without that “artifically produced milk” the baby would still require artifically produced milk from another mammal in order to sustain life, correct? If an adoptive parent goes to that great a length to nurture a baby when that same result can easily be purchased, that child is the very furthest thing from abused. Please seek counselling, your issues with adoption are not healthy. 

 Jan 9, 2017 11:37pm      Gert Mcqueen · Works at Happily Retired Cathy D… Doris Michol Sippel (adopted as Joan Mary Wheeler) has a long history of histrionics; she likes drama, likes to shock people. By using these techniques she thinks people will listen to her profound wisdoms for they don’t have ‘her’ background and knowledge (she’s an expert). Generally people are turned off by her. No amount of reasoning works on her! She’s anti-adoption so any topic that she can hijack, she will, to promote her anti-adoption crap. 

Ramona J.      Doris, your adoption experience is not that of all adopted people. Help is available for your issues. Clearly you require professional assistance to deal with them. 

Doris Michol Sippel · Owner-operator at Self-Employed      Ramona J. I do not need help, thank you. I am an activist. You people are sorely uniformed. And, if there are any comments here from my sisters ( they are blocked from my facebook but I can guess they are still cyberstalking me) I can assure you that they are guilty of many abuses upon me and my adoptive mother, and my children. Go ahead, have a heyday. I have been mocked since 1974. Yet, I stand strong in my activism, for I know I am right. Think what you like, water off the duck’s back. 

Gert McQueen to Ramona    Ramona J…

Ah yes.. Doris Michol Sippel (adopted as Joan Mary Wheeler) does indeed detest her birth siblings! Why?? Because we bring forth the exploitation, libel and misrepresentations that ‘she’ has written about OUR PARENTS! She can’t abide that anyone should contradict her! She’s been in ‘therapy’ for over 30 years, she does love therapy! When I ADOPTED my flesh and blood in ‘step-parent’ adoption, she could NOT abide that! Why? She’s anti-adoption, period, end of story, don’t try to convince her of anything other than what she KNOWS…poor baby! No one understand her!

Her first book ‘Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism’ published in 2009, was pulled from publication by the publisher in May 2011 due to libelous material in it. Then in 2015, she ‘self-published’ a ‘revised’ version calling it ‘Forbidden Family, an adoptee duped by adoption’, being her own editor and owner. This woman has no shame no sense of family honor! Then in 2016 Joan changed her name back to her birth name and reedited and republished the SAME crap in another book; a Third edition! CALLED ‘Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity’! Talk about conning people! 

Ruth Herr Sippel Pace · Queen at Retired     ah yes, the old “lump all her birth-sisters into one entity delusion.”

I am the other birth sister (Gert is one, I am the other). I read all this a few hours ago and was not interested in leaving a comment, but since Joan/Doris dragged me into it.  

Cyberstalking??? Let’s talk plain stalking. Back in November 2012, Joan/Doris wrote a letter to my job with lies to get me fired. Which she has been doing on and off since 1995. I hauled her into court, but in July 2013 the judge dismissed the charges, because I hadn’t been affected by it – i.e. not sanctioned by my job. Joan/Doris said I was committing computer fraud. lol. But my employer can and did trace every keystroke that I had done. I was exonerated. So, since I hadn’t ‘suffered’ anything – the charges were dismissed. BUT prior to my filing the charges, Joan/Doris went right here on Huffington and BRAGGED about calling my job to get me fired. – it’s under her comments under Joan M Wheeler – you’ll have to search for it. 

Also in 2013 she had her boyfriend threaten me via his blog to expose my ‘dark dirty secret.’ (I have no idea what that is). I told him via MY blog that I do not respond to emotional blackmail and that if he knows something about me to go right ahead and say it. And the Buffalo police and the Erie County District Attorney would be very interested in finding out how and why this man, who never met me, never spoke to me, knows things about me and is threatening me. — lol. apparently, he broke up with Joan/Doris right after that. 

by the way, prior to that blackmail attempt, on his blog he was asking about a fight I had with an Arab lady whose name started with S. — oh my gods! that was in September 1979!!! Joan/Doris is going around telling her boyfriends 35 year old gossip about me!!! lol – lol – lol. 

Joan/Doris had her first book pulled from publication because I sent police/court documents to Trafford Publications that proved that she libled me in her book. 

Well, now that I’ve retired, she can’t call my job anymore to get me fired. I have taken her toy away.

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1. gertmcqueen – February 13, 2017

NOTE WELL what two different people say here to Joan/Doris…

1) Please seek counselling, your issues with adoption are not healthy.

2) Help is available for your issues. Clearly you require professional assistance to deal with them.

and what Joan/Doris says…

I do not need help, thank you. I am an activist. You people are sorely uniformed.

And this is why we keep shining the light on J/D…everyone else sees and knows what she does not. She’s right everyone else is wrong.

An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity by Fred Tomasello Jr Review #4 on Doris M Sippel’s replay/act 3 of her ‘memoir’! February 10, 2017

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yet another review of yet another rewrite of garbage…she never stops

duped by adoption & an woman's Struggle for Identity, a book study

It’s amazing how some people believe in their own self-importance!

An exchange on FB…

Fred Tomasello Jr. January 10 at 4:25pm ·

We just saw “Lion.” Doris Michol Sippel, this movie validates your book about the bond between adopted children and their parents so strongly I suspect you may have collaborated on the screenplay. Beautiful, sad, powerful and somewhat of a happy ending.

Doris Michol Sippel Thank you Fred Tomasello Jr.  I saw this movie on my birthday with my daughter. Yes, I think this is the best adoption movie I have ever seen. I wish I had collaborated on the screenplay! But no, I didn’t. yews, this movie validates what adoptees have been saying for decades.

Fred Tomasello Jr. Here is a link to the book and my review: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1…

Doris Michol Sippel Thank you Fred Tomasello Jr.!

Well isn’t that sweet! A mutual admiration! Does show us that Joan/Doris…

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Browbeating and insults abound as Joan M Wheeler/Doris M Sippel is unable to ‘control’ herself! (1 of 6) February 3, 2017

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Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

Again, we see the great ‘educator for adoption reform’ use her superb talents to win converts…NOT!

Would you stand still (figuratively and physically) and allow Joan/Doris to speak to you in the way she does here? Of course not!

She only gets away with it, sometimes, because of the impersonal nature of the ‘internet’ format. She is far more cowardly, via the phone and in person, where she flees away when another refuses to take her BS! She’s like a viper! Strike and slither away!

BUT before we go any further I want to share

I’m updating with links to my second blog and a Facebook page wherein I expose AGAIN the lies, fabrications and hate that Joan M Wheeler (Doris Michol Sippel) says about me and family. The first book Forbidden Family, A Half Orphan’s Account of Her Adoption, Reunion and Social Activism‘ was published…

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Some adoptees just can’t GET IT that others are NOT interested in their politics and don’t know when to shut the f… up! January 19, 2017

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follow up on Ruth’s recent post, links are within the posts…

Ruth here: my comment here, and on Gert’s original post –

interesting – and thank you Gert for posting the entire exchange, as it had happened, and deleted by Megan while I was offline. 

Megan contacted ME on July 18, 2016 AFTER she had a fight with Joan Wheeler/Doris Sippel – our adopted-out, then reunited with, younger sister.

She said she had been reading my blog and was appalled at Joan’s behaviors towards me.

Way back when she first contacted me – after reading my blog, she said “I urge you when reading this line from your blog “Gert and I don’t really care about any adoption issues” to please have a change of heart. “ 

to which I replied:

“Megan, when I said (on my blog) that we don’t care about adoption issues, that meant that it isn’t on the top of our cause list. – we are aware of the issues and are for reform of a more truthful birth certificate and of course medical information, genetic background info.” 

So yeah, Gert is right – these adoptees just can’t get it that others are NOT interested in their politics and don’t know when to shut the f…. up! 

Megan Mary’s passion, as is Joan’s passion is their adoption issues. Fine. Good for them.

THEIR ISSUES AND PASSIONS ARE NOT MINE.

I told little Megan that right from the get go.

She must be learning impaired that she didn’t get that. 

She got her panties in a bunch when Gert told her over and over to shut up and leave her alone. 

She told me that she thinks Joan is a wack-a-doo. Well I think that too. I also believe that Megan Mary is also a wack-a-do.

For several months, Megan Mary and I were connected on facebook. We had a few interesting conversations on facebook, both private and public.

Megan doesn’t know me. I don’t know her. All we know about each other is what’s on facebook. And I am very clear on facebook what I will not tolerate. And that is DISRESPECTING ME AND MY VIEWPOINTS.

And since I told Megan right from the get go, that I am NOT interested in adoption issues, and she didn’t get it – or rather REFUSED to get it – then further dug herself into a hole by going after one of my family members who has the same viewpoint as I do – well I view her as a wack-a-do.

Then to further cement her reputation as a wack-a-do, Megan turns coward – deletes things, unfriends and blocks ME, who had nothing to do with the exchange between her and Gert (I was snoozing on the couch with the cat).

Megan, are you 31 or are you 10 years old? Grow up, grow a spine.

Reclaiming the Sippel-Herr Family Honor

Insult me, tell me I’m wrong, browbeat me, and then when I tell you to take a hike, get all pissy about it and tell me I owe you an apology! When I state my position is contrary to yours, accept that and shut up! Don’t make me BE wrong because I disagree with you. Sounds just like how Joan behaves; narcissistic behavior and all!

So when they persist in ramming their agenda down the throat of someone who has said repeatedly to STOP, and they continue ramming…they are doing just what they accuse others of doing … NOT LISTENING. Then they turn EVIL and MEAN and resort to NAME CALLING AND INSULTING. When they behave this way, they lose their credibility, they are NOT effective and they do great harm to their cause.

This happens with any and all browbeating techniques.

In this short pattern of dialog, I’m Person…

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What REALLY is the motive of Joan M Wheeler taking her birth name of Doris M Sippel? Was it THOUGHT OUT or is there a MOTIVE? January 11, 2017

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much food for thought

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If an adoptee changes their name, legally, back to the birth name, what is the motive/reason?

Is it really a good thing to ‘take back’ their birth name? What about others in that birth family whom NOW have to deal with this ‘new’ addition to their family tree/name? How do GENERATIONS, current and in the future, DEAL with this ‘interloper’ who ‘takes’ the family name, after adoption? How about general CONFUSIONS? Make no mistake confusions and more can happen when some takes and claims a NAME that others in a family KNOW nothing about!

She may be able to legally change her name back to her birth family name, but that does NOT give her any standing in the birth family. In fact it causes confusion and more, for generations to come. Doris M Sippel was born in 1956, adopted and became Joan M Wheeler. Regardless of the fact that…

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Joan Mary Wheeler aka Doris Michol Sippel has her very first book signing and blows it by screaming at another author there, then calls for other adoptees to harass the woman AND publishes the woman’s phone number on social media. January 3, 2017

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Read this blog post by Gert McQueen to read how Joan aka Doris started screaming at another author at a book signing event held at the Buffalo Historical Museum. And then goes after the author by telling other adoptees to harass her, and publishes the author’s phone number. what a bitch Joan/Doris is – but we all know that anyway. (by the way, the author’s [Mary Arno] contact information, including email and phone number ARE on her flyer/website. I chose NOT to publish the phone number here. Joan/Doris publicized the phone number, not to generate interest or possible sales for Mary Arno, but to have others stalk and harass her. And that’s WRONG!)

If this is HOW Doris M. Sippel/Joan M. Wheeler behaves, towards another author, at her FIRST BOOK SIGNING, than she ought to be banned from book signings!

Here is Joan/Doris’ own account on her facebook page about how proud she is to have been verbally abusive to another person AND calls for that person to be stalked and harassed by other adoptees. 

Doris Michol Sippel December 1 at 8:48pm · Buffalo 

ABUSIVE ADOPTER ALERT – author Mary Arno 

I was one of 65 local authors who presented their books for sale at the Buffalo (New York) History Museum on Sat Nov 26, 2016. This was my very first author event for my memoir, Forbidden Family: An Adopted Woman’s Struggle for Identity. (Amazon) 

The woman to my right handed me her book mark. She is a well-known author by the name of Mary Arno. Here is here contact info from her book mark: 716- &&&-&&&&

 (You will need it to send her emails to inform her about the reality of adoption. She has no clue.) 

I gave her my flyer. She read it: “The death of my married mother when I was an infant led to my closed adoption. Eighteen years later, I was found by family I did not know I had.” Inside the flyer was a statement about sealed birth certificates and falsified birth certificates. 

Mary Arno turned to me and said, “you sound very angry!” 

I shot out at her, “I am now! Thank you for putting me on the defensive! I am the expert of my life!” 

She said, “You should be mad at your BIOLOGICAL mother for giving you away, not at your adoptive parents…” 

At hearing her refer to my MOTHER as my “BIOLOGICAL MOTHER”, I got even madder and began shouting at her. “My mother died!” 

But she didn’t even acknowledge my loss. “Then you should be mad at your father for giving you away, not at your adoptive parents!” 

“I never blamed my father for giving me away! He was in an impossible situation, a father of five children, his wife died of cancer, how I could blame him…” 

Mary Arno shot back at me, “Oh no, it is clearly his fault! He willing gave you away! You SHOULD blame him!” And in the next breath, she asked, “Your adoptive parents loved you, didn’t they?” 

I yelled, “Oh? My adoptive parents lied to me my entire life! Lies, lies, lies! And more lies! They knew I had sisters and a brother who lived 6 miles from me my entire childhood, yet they willfully prevented me from knowing my own siblings! I would hardly call that love! New York State stole my birth certificate and I’m not supposed to upset over that?” 

“I am an adoptive mother so I have a different opinion than you do,” Mary Arno declared smugly. 

I shouted back at her. “You did not give birth so your name does not belong on a birth certificate.” 

“That is your opinion!” Mary Arno snapped back at me. 

“It’s more than my opinion. I have 42 years of personal and professional experience in adoption reform. This is a global movement to eradicate adoption from the planet. Adoptees and mothers-of-adoption-loss are rising in protest against adoption.”

I told her I am fighting New York State for my right to my own birth certificate. She said I should do just that! As if I need her permission for my activism! 

Then Mary Arno said to me, “So, writing your memoir, that must have been a very cathartic experience for you.” 

Nice going. What a put-down. No, it actually was hard work. As if all adoptees who write memoirs write simply to “get it out of our systems” so “we can move on with our lives”. Hell, I wouldn’t wish this journey on my worst enemy. 

Somehow, I got through he two hour event by talking with people as they came up to the table. 

I sent Mary Arno a long email on the proper etiquette on how to talk with an adopted person. I encourage all adoptees and mothers-of-adoption-loss to do so as well. 

Here is the front and back of Mary Arno’s bookmark with her website and contact info – email and phone number. Yes, she lives in Buffalo, New York. 716- &&&-&&&&

comments 

Paula – January 4, 2017    –  Mary Arno read her like a book!! (pun intended!)

Ruth – January 4, 2017   –  ha ha ha

gertmcqueen – January 4, 2017   –  I’m quite sure that Mary Arno ‘knows’ what type Joan/Doris is alright! Unless someone is on the ‘same’ page as Joan/Doris, they are ‘bookmarked’ as enemy.

Ruth – January 4, 2017 – hmmm, Joan/Doris says “Somehow, I got through the two hour event …” – seems as tho I’ve read that line before – oh yeah, in her book, Joan is always just “getting through” events –because she ‘suffers’ so damn much!

Well, if she would treat people nicely, then people wouldn’t get mad at her, and then she wouldn’t have to SUFFER all the time.   but the ass NEVER learns that.

 gertmcqueen – January 4, 2017   – I can just image what that must have been like for the unfortunate ones that had to ‘deal’ with Joan/Doris as she ‘got through’ the event. Sure hope that the event organizers read my blog, for I sent them the link! and then J/D won’t have to worry about ‘suffering through’ another event

she ought to be banned from book signings January 3, 2017

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why does Joan/Doris do what she does? December 12, 2016

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check out this post….

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/12/12/curiouser-and-curiouser-why-did-joan-m-wheelerdoris-m-sippel-do-it/

how many titles does JOAN M WHEELER need to let her lousy life story September 2, 2016

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and while she’s at telling her life story she slanders and libels every member of TWO FAMILIES.

 

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/joan-m-wheelers-story-about-her-life-and-others-has-taken-on-many-forms-and-titles-over-the-years/

 

a new discussion topic August 17, 2016

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A new discussion on Amazon about the lousy book!

https://gertmcqueen2.wordpress.com/2016/08/17/a-new-discussion-topic-on-the-authors-page-of-forbidden-family-duped-by-adoption/

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